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Allister Rose

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symbolism? you keep saying that but i don't see it...unless you are rtrying to say that they are both similar in the sense that they can both take similar form....then that's not symbolism.

i dont like talking aobut literal and symbolical terms at the same time...
 

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symbolism? you keep saying that but i don't see it

Here you go:

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Yeah. This theory has been said before... The whole "ripped memory" thing is already speculated, although I doubt it's ripped memories. The "Shadow" thing is new, though. And well, another fact that supports it:

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Look at the shape of the cards. What do the cards mean? *Memories*.
K, I'll shut up.
 

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Here you go:

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Yeah. This theory has been said before... The whole "ripped memory" thing is already speculated, although I doubt it's ripped memories. The "Shadow" thing is new, though. And well, another fact that supports it:

KH1_1102550607.jpg


Look at the shape of the cards. What do the cards mean? *Memories*.
K, I'll shut up.

sigh...i mean the real symbol not this fake fanmade one....the only thing making the two similar is the crowns on the cards and the points on the fanmade symbol but the real image doesnt have a pointed intersection like the cards. it's curved and that is the one and only thing making the two similar
 

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sigh...i mean the real symbol not this fake fanmade one....the only thing making the two similar is the crowns on the cards and the points on the fanmade symbol but the real image doesnt have a pointed intersection like the cards. it's curved and that is the one and only thing making the two similar

... What? Dude. Seriously. From now on I'll just ignore you, ok?
 

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... What? Dude. Seriously. From now on I'll just ignore you, ok?

sigh....please dont take the discussion personally....

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am i the only one who sees the major flaw?

EDIT: look here's pic from Re:COM

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the card point's intersection has changed.
 
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sigh....please dont take the discussion personally....

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am i the only one who sees the major flaw?

EDIT: look here's pic from Re:COM

battle_star490.jpg


the card point's intersection has changed.

I agree with Allister here,
i honestly don't see what you guys are seeing.
Although i understand if you're trying to make
a small similarity to have symbolism of memories
correlate with Unbirth Symbol, but the intersecting
points are indeed not the same. There are plenty
more symbols in KH with interjecting points, such
as the KH crown....

i also still happen to believe that the Unbirth symbol is
a mimicked creation.
 

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i will go ahead and say that their is hardly a resemblance.
i can actually disprove plenty of similarities people are
claiming, aside from fan made pictures ppl keep presenting
within the argument.
 

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‡ƵionΡhnӾ‡;4273914 said:
i will go ahead and say that their is hardly a resemblance.
i can actually disprove plenty of similarities people are
claiming, aside from fan made pictures ppl keep presenting
within the argument.
Well that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. But I'm still going to call a similarity because that is my opinion.
 

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it makes a lot more sense than the soul thing I heard about the way memories are used in kingdom hearts theres bound to be some new enemy involving them but id still like to know how the unbirth vanished, if they come from memories why would they stop coming
 

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sigh....please dont take the discussion personally....

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am i the only one who sees the major flaw?

EDIT: look here's pic from Re:COM

battle_star490.jpg


the card point's intersection has changed.

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And my pic is from the ORIGINAL Chain of Memories.
 

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it makes a lot more sense than the soul thing I heard about the way memories are used in kingdom hearts theres bound to be some new enemy involving them but id still like to know how the unbirth vanished, if they come from memories why would they stop coming

my guess would be that they're not extinct, but rather sealed
from existence. Of anything can be trapped in a realm, or within
a door, my educated guess is that they are sealed away. If
Xehanort returns, awakens, or simply regains his memories he had
lost so long ago, perhaps there may be a chance we'll see the
return of Unbirth.
 

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And my pic is from the ORIGINAL Chain of Memories.
I can definitely see the similarity. People are getting caught up in the tiniest details, but when I look at the Unbirth symbol the first thing I see is two halves of a CoM card. It could just be me, but it seems like an obvious connection. :/

Besides, is there really a more viable theory out there? KH has already used hearts and souls (right?). Other than memories, the only other prominent abstract quality of the human condition featured in the game, what is there? Obama?

Then again, I'm not sure I'm the best person to speak on this topic. I still don't understand what the heck Nobodies are. I have a feeling Days is just going to confuse me more from the hints I've gotten about Xion. </3

Shuri/Eli
 

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I can definitely see the similarity. People are getting caught up in the tiniest details, but when I look at the Unbirth symbol the first thing I see is two halves of a CoM card. It could just be me, but it seems like an obvious connection. :/

Besides, is there really a more viable theory out there? KH has already used hearts and souls (right?). Other than memories, the only other prominent abstract quality of the human condition featured in the game, what is there? Obama?

Then again, I'm not sure I'm the best person to speak on this topic. I still don't understand what the heck Nobodies are. I have a feeling Days is just going to confuse me more from the hints I've gotten about Xion. </3

Shuri/Eli

Nobodies, are the body and soul
 

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You can clearly see the symbol at the back.
I don't like using fan arts.

And just to make a little comment : Birth by sleep is supposed to reveal the "memories" of Xehanort's past.
So this (BBS) game does take memories to an importance.
 

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sigh....i guess no one understand what i meant...everyone is simply going by the fanmade symbol similarity with the cards. the cards look like crowns in Re:COM, maybe normal COM didnt have enough space to make them look similar. Again, the pionted pyramids on the unbirth symbol (fanmade) are not "pointed" in the actual symbol.. the similarity is perfect with the fanmade one, but if you cvompare it with the real one, you can tell it's not.

it's like comparing a fan made drawing to something real. the fan made drawing is not exact and you can clearly see the flaw with the real symbol (seen in the gameplay)
 
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