Kingdom Hearts X[chi]: Ephemera and the Non-Existent World

[Taochan]

We don't have an explanation for the Emblem Heartless yet though. Even if the hub is the real Daybreak Town and the one from the world selection is another illusion there are still the raid bosses.

Could be falsely created since your goal is gathering Lux and that's apparently looking like it might be nefarious. I don't play though so I've only been keeping up with the new story updates.

 

[The_Echo]

We don't have an explanation for the Emblem Heartless yet though. Even if the hub is the real Daybreak Town and the one from the world selection is another illusion there are still the raid bosses.

It's probably safe to assume that the Heartless were brought along with the worlds, and spread to Daybreak Town because it's connected to those illusory worlds.

 

[ShardofTruth]

There has to be more to it because that's where Ephemera's explanation doesn't add up.
According to him we collect LUX from far away places of the real world through the illusionary worlds. But LUX can only be gathered from Heartless, so if the LUX is actually from the real world, the Heartless have to be too.

That's a thing that was always strange about [chi], according to Chirithy (in the introduction) the Unions try to gather light to drive back the darkness the world is being covered in. But where this darkness is coming from is not revealed yet, even though it's probably linked to the greed theme of the children's story.

If the Book of Prophecies is really the source of the Heartless who steal the light from the real world which is then gathered by the Players (again with the help of the book) the Foretellers are more dangerous than expected.

 

[Gram]

But LUX can only be gathered from Heartless, so if the LUX is actually from the real world, the Heartless have to be too.

Not necessarily. The heartless could be illusions. Not that there isn't something physically there. Just that them looking like heartless could be a part of the illusion hiding what they really are to further get people to attack them.

I mean what's more motivating than saying "these here are monsters of darkness, destroy them before they hurt others"?

 

[Quartz]

...Now I have only one question plaguing me.

Is the Player, real or not? It's likely the Masters are real, simply projecting Avatars of themselves through the books. And the other characters may or may not be real. But all of the main "story" seems to be with our own Players. So what of us?

 

[ShardofTruth]

Not necessarily. The heartless could be illusions. Not that there isn't something physically there. Just that them looking like heartless could be a part of the illusion hiding what they really are to further get people to attack them.

I mean what's more motivating than saying "these here are monsters of darkness, destroy them before they hurt others"?

Very true, if the Heartless aren't really Heartless that could also explain the "Guilt" we collect too.

...Now I have only one question plaguing me.

Is the Player, real or not? It's likely the Masters are real, simply projecting Avatars of themselves through the books. And the other characters may or may not be real. But all of the main "story" seems to be with our own Players. So what of us?

Good question. I think it fit would the theme of the game when the players (us) are projecting themselves in the game, meaning these avatars (and to some extend their stories) are also illusions in some shape or form. At least the Keyblades only function together with the "fragments" of the Book of Prophecies, so they should also be illusions to some degree.

 

[des97]

If the Book of Prophecies is really the source of the Heartless who steal the light from the real world which is then gathered by the Players (again with the help of the book) the Foretellers are more dangerous than expected.

Thing that would bring gelandporn​'s theory to a brand new level of awesomeness.

 

[Narxus]

Not necessarily. The heartless could be illusions. Not that there isn't something physically there. Just that them looking like heartless could be a part of the illusion hiding what they really are to further get people to attack them.

I mean what's more motivating than saying "these here are monsters of darkness, destroy them before they hurt others"?

Which then of course raises the obvious question: If it's not Heartless we're fighting, what is it, and why did whoever's casting the illusion feel the need to disguise them?

I must say the entire dynamic of Chi just got really interesting really quickly

 

[Quartz]

Which then of course raises the obvious question: If it's not Heartless we're fighting, what is it, and why did whoever's casting the illusion feel the need to disguise them?

I must say the entire dynamic of Chi just got really interesting really quickly

Aye. Which brings the Guilt system up again. Is it ours, somehow knowing subconsciously that we're not fighting Heartless? Is it from the "Heartless" themselves? Or is it from whomever is running this...scenario?

Boy talk about a tone shift.

 

[FudgemintGuardian]

Remember in 358/2 Days when Roxas and Xion were tricked into fighting each other by Xemnas, making them see the other as a Heartless?

I think I know what the Heartless in Chi are...

 

[Some guy]

Remember in 358/2 Days when Roxas and Xion were tricked into fighting each other by Xemnas, making them see the other as a Heartless?

I think I know what the Heartless in Chi are...

Omigosh! This is ... you're a genius! That's kinda disturbing though ... But what about the raid bosses?

 

[Nial]

Remember in 358/2 Days when Roxas and Xion were tricked into fighting each other by Xemnas, making them see the other as a Heartless?

I think I know what the Heartless in Chi are...

ohhhhh..... that's... wow... how could I not think about that

 

[Gram]

Remember in 358/2 Days when Roxas and Xion were tricked into fighting each other by Xemnas, making them see the other as a Heartless?

I think I know what the Heartless in Chi are...

Aaaaannnnndddddd now Chi just got a lot darker.

 

[Davidsawr]

Aaaaannnnndddddd now Chi just got a lot darker.

And so much more interesting

 

[Kazr10]

There is speculation on the Japanese side that the clock tower and the entire new area of Daybreak Town may be the actual venue of the Dungeon teased in the developers report.

There will be a new game mode in Chi arriving in the near future called Dungeon mode. Inside the dungeon there will be various missions like "reach the top with the shortest distance", etc.

Oh and I just remembered. We have been fighting our Raid Bosses in Daybreak Town. Since we can directly fight them from our hub and all players can take part in it.


Edit: Just checked the developers report. I think the screenshot practically confirms it. The clock tower may just be like the guilt system where we obtain a new game function through a story scene.

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[ShardofTruth]

You're right, the dungeon mode may be reaching the top of the clocker tower after all.

 

[hemmoheikkinen]

Wait. Are you guys implying that the Heartless could be other players from different unions, and they are killing/fighting each other?

 

[Blackdrazon]

Yeah, I was figuring something like that - which is good, because it means with some luck, we'll see the Dungeons after New Years is done! Maybe immediately?

 

[ShardofTruth]

Wait. Are guys implying that the Heartless could be other players from different unions, and they are killing/fighting each other?

I think that's not very likely since we've seen and see players from other unions as themselves in the game. The daily team battle, where two unions compete with each other, is a testament to that fact.

 

[Gram]

Wait. Are guys implying that the Heartless could be other players from different unions, and they are killing/fighting each other?

That or that the guilds are attacking innocent people. The light is coming from somewhere and I doubt heartless (who have only released hearts till now) or illusionary worlds are paying up that light.