A simple question really, I want to know why so many were disappointed in certain or all kh games after the first??
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Kingdom Hearts...why hate it?
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Re: Kingdomhearts...why hate it?
I get that you can't please everyone but I'm just saying what don't they like about the game specifically. Like is the gameplay far too easy, or the story got too complicated, etc.
I get that you can't please everyone but I'm just saying what don't they like about the game specifically. Like is the gameplay far too easy, or the story got too complicated, etc.
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My fovorite is KH1: FM, but I hate the way some people who think it's the best game in the series look down on people who don't share their opinion.
My fovorite is KH1: FM, but I hate the way some people who think it's the best game in the series look down on people who don't share their opinion.
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Re: Kingdomhearts...why hate it?
Are people not allowed to think that way about something?
Are people not allowed to think that way about something?
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KH2's gameplay was too easy and the script was mediocre. Days' story was one that didn't necessarily need to exist which makes it easy to attack. BBS' story seemed too short.
We are allowed to have our own opinions about the games. :/ There isn't any way to describe why we dislike it for those reasons, but we do.
KH2's gameplay was too easy and the script was mediocre. Days' story was one that didn't necessarily need to exist which makes it easy to attack. BBS' story seemed too short.
We are allowed to have our own opinions about the games. :/ There isn't any way to describe why we dislike it for those reasons, but we do.
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Because of the fact that the franchise lost its original direction. Games since haven't brought forward the whole formula, but rather parts of it. Combat become so much of the focus that puzzle, platforming and exploration suffered quite a bit. Pretty much, KH2 to KH1 is like Invisible Wars to Deus Ex. A lot of elements were sacrificed or simplified.
Because of the fact that the franchise lost its original direction. Games since haven't brought forward the whole formula, but rather parts of it. Combat become so much of the focus that puzzle, platforming and exploration suffered quite a bit. Pretty much, KH2 to KH1 is like Invisible Wars to Deus Ex. A lot of elements were sacrificed or simplified.
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I get that everyone has their own opinions and how it is impossible for everyone to like something but I was just curious as to why exactly people weren't getting into it anymore.
I get that everyone has their own opinions and how it is impossible for everyone to like something but I was just curious as to why exactly people weren't getting into it anymore.
Re: Kingdomhearts...why hate it?
idk because people have different opinions
idk because people have different opinions
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It's plot is too complicated for newcomers, and it's own good.
It's plot is too complicated for newcomers, and it's own good.
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The plot is hardly complicated. I think at times it is overly simplified to stupidity. It's the way they presented everything to us that makes it seem "complicated". Relevant plot points aren't mentioned in the dialogue of the game. You have to read the reports and decipher their meaning in relation to the events in the game.
Then the other half of understanding comes in the interviews, where we should really be getting the meat of the games in the first place.
The plot is hardly complicated. I think at times it is overly simplified to stupidity. It's the way they presented everything to us that makes it seem "complicated". Relevant plot points aren't mentioned in the dialogue of the game. You have to read the reports and decipher their meaning in relation to the events in the game.
Then the other half of understanding comes in the interviews, where we should really be getting the meat of the games in the first place.
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Your right, but even Nomura admitted that it's difficult for newcomers to get into the series.
Your right, but even Nomura admitted that it's difficult for newcomers to get into the series.
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The series as a whole has its flaws. Every game has something that can be nit picked to certain degrees and some fans are more forgiving then others. For some the positive things out way the negative while others see the flaws as too big a hampering and then there's the usual "opinionated" flaw were while a certain aspect is appreciated by some it may be disliked by others. Things like plot holes and mechanic quirks like the camera at times are general flaws that may bother some people more than others while things like the direction of the story and the battle systems are qualities that fans will battle over for all eternity.
Basically, like all things KH has its flaws and some fans are more critical about them.
The series as a whole has its flaws. Every game has something that can be nit picked to certain degrees and some fans are more forgiving then others. For some the positive things out way the negative while others see the flaws as too big a hampering and then there's the usual "opinionated" flaw were while a certain aspect is appreciated by some it may be disliked by others. Things like plot holes and mechanic quirks like the camera at times are general flaws that may bother some people more than others while things like the direction of the story and the battle systems are qualities that fans will battle over for all eternity.
Basically, like all things KH has its flaws and some fans are more critical about them.
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Only because we are so far into the series and there are about six games to play in order to catch up. Not because it is complicated to understand.
Only because we are so far into the series and there are about six games to play in order to catch up. Not because it is complicated to understand.
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Pretty much this. You don't need to be 'smart' to understand it. You just need to have money to understand it.
Pretty much this. You don't need to be 'smart' to understand it. You just need to have money to understand it.
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I don't feel that way myself, but I think I know why some people do. The main thing was probably the Disney-focused/styled story and concept. Disney characters and worlds were made much more important, and the story itself was very Disney-like and easy for everyone to understand. They dislike the way that the other games remove Disney as the main focus, and the plot becomes harder for them to understand. Other than that, people liked the exploration and interaction with the environment enabled by the first game, whereas now the gameplay focus is entirely on coming up with different battle systems.
My favorite part of the KH series is the story, so I care very little for Disney's part. Exploration is definitely something they could work on, but I think they're doing that with 3D already, since there will be much environment interaction, and probably many buildings.
I don't feel that way myself, but I think I know why some people do. The main thing was probably the Disney-focused/styled story and concept. Disney characters and worlds were made much more important, and the story itself was very Disney-like and easy for everyone to understand. They dislike the way that the other games remove Disney as the main focus, and the plot becomes harder for them to understand. Other than that, people liked the exploration and interaction with the environment enabled by the first game, whereas now the gameplay focus is entirely on coming up with different battle systems.
My favorite part of the KH series is the story, so I care very little for Disney's part. Exploration is definitely something they could work on, but I think they're doing that with 3D already, since there will be much environment interaction, and probably many buildings.
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Re: Kingdomhearts...why hate it?
That's why FF is so popular. Almost a different story every time, something new.
With Kingdom Hearts, it's just a load of complicated crap that no one will understand unless they've been a "fan" for as long as most of us have.
That's why FF is so popular. Almost a different story every time, something new.
With Kingdom Hearts, it's just a load of complicated crap that no one will understand unless they've been a "fan" for as long as most of us have.
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And I have to say it again that KH is not complicated. It isn't about being a long time fan. It is about being able to play all of the games on three (four if you take in account CoM) systems and actually connect the dots in the games.
Complicated is MGS. Complicated is Zelda's continuity. KH is simple in comparison.
And I have to say it again that KH is not complicated. It isn't about being a long time fan. It is about being able to play all of the games on three (four if you take in account CoM) systems and actually connect the dots in the games.
Complicated is MGS. Complicated is Zelda's continuity. KH is simple in comparison.
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