Kingdom Hearts III Pre-Release Spoiler Discussion Thread

[Neo_]

So are you just gonna ignore how the original DB was pretty much the same thing?

This is my favorite DB; definitely had more melody, but then what the hell was this from? I'm hella confused. KH3's definitely resembles the latter, but I was always greeted with the former upon booting up KH1.

 

[Chaser]

40 hours is quite short. It's expected though, considering the tiny amount of worlds.

You were expecting 20-25 hours for a long time before (even saying you expect KH3 to be the shortest game in the series); I figured 40 hours was more in your ballpark of a good length for a game.

 

[alexis.anagram]

His brother said they won't say if there's FF characters because it's a spoiler. What a bunch of BS.

Agreed. I don't really care in the sense that we're not entitled to any information and whatever we get from them is something, but it's a little ridiculous to see them acting all sanctimonious about it. They're playing the game illicitly a month before it releases and bragging about it online. I think we can all agree that it's fine if they don't want to post major story spoilers-- personally, I'd love to see everything, but I can understand that in the collective interest of the fandom there's a benefit to holding back on the big stuff. But FF cameos and a world list? This is the kind of stuff SE should have done a better job addressing during promotion for the game. That's where these leakers could really contribute to the community.

I liked the full opening movie. Change my mind.

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Well, I think it's a great opening if you're a fan of SoKai and enjoy the idea of every character who isn't Sora getting cheated of a meaningful part to play. Otherwise, it does nothing other OPs haven't done better for previous games. Its transitions are also not great: it has too many competing motifs between the chessboard, the trios, and the SoraxKairi elements such that none are really effective in communicating an emotional story. The chessboard represents a conflict which is premised as being centered around the trios at the start of the OP, but then Sora is the only protagonist ever depicted as an actor in the events that follow, with Kairi appearing intermittently for reasons that aren't really clear in context with the rest of the material. Although it's my favorite part, there's no reason the other trio characters are shown facing the light, because they don't take part in anything that happens after that. The last shot of Sora's chess piece indicates that it's the last one standing, even though it was shown just moments before with Kairi's, which undermines the romantic throughline. And then it's all implied to retroactively represent some sort of "connection" between Young Xehanort and Sora that leaves us with nothing to make sense of the story as it played out over the course of the OP. And the group shot ultimately feels tagged on, like a second thought, when that should have been the centerpiece of the whole montage. It doesn't build, or crescendo, it just flags along through a continual regression of the ensemble iconography of the series. Sora meeting Kairi alone on DI after defeating Xemnas alone in the obligatory fight sequence should honestly make any fan of the series cringe.

Here's one way to fix it:
Make some actual use of the "3D chess" trope. Integrate the homeworld settings and place every character with their respective trio intentionally on the board, and utilize that space imaginatively. YX's moves reflect the direct progression of his antagonism throughout the series with the full range of villains: Xigbar, Larxene, whoever's relevant to KH3. Depict the struggles on the part of the protagonists as interlinked and give them the full weight they deserve. Sora falling through the board and Kairi's connection with him as his light was good, but follow that up with him re-entering the board alongside Riku and moving through a symbolic rendition of their arc in DDD. Sora's "blast of light" should have returned all of the heroes to the board, and the final shot of it (from YX's perspective) would have been all of the "light" pieces surrounded by his Darknesses. The camera pans up to reveal Namine, sitting across from him with her sketchbook in hand. She's been taking notes, and she prepares to make her move. The very last image is of the drawing she made of everyone, which transitions into the last group shot in the actual OP before the logo comes in. Ta-dah.

 

[Squood!]

but then what the hell was this from? I'm hella confused.

That's KH2's DB, bud. The person who made that video just randomly thought it was KH1's for some reason.

 

[theshadowman]

You were expecting 20-25 hours for a long time before (even saying you expect KH3 to be the shortest game in the series); I figured 40 hours was more in your ballpark of a good length for a game.

I don’t think anything is in his ballpark. All he does is complain. It’s getting old

 

[alexis.anagram]

That Dearly Beloved was weaksauce. It was just like three notes going back and forth on a keyboard.

I want to like it, but it's not what I was expecting. I'll need to sit with a decent quality version of it before I can figure out how it makes me feel. I definitely don't think it's a bad track, but it doesn't register as "Dearly Beloved (KH3 Version)" to me just yet.

 

[notnow123487]

No one can complain about a 40 hour main story game lol. That’s longer than 95% of games and more importantly longer than any KH game.

edit: Brother is back. Just said they’re playing on proud and that he thinks each world could be done in two hours if they weren’t wasting time fooling around.

 

[Chaser]

I don’t think anything is in his ballpark. All he does is complain. It’s getting old

I know and I agree, his bullshit has been going on for close to a year now. But if people really find his troll-like complaining to be annoying, you can submit official complaints.

 

[Neo_]

I want to like it, but it's not what I was expecting. I'll need to sit with a decent quality version of it before I can figure out how it makes me feel. I definitely don't think it's a bad track, but it doesn't register as "Dearly Beloved (KH3 Version)" to me just yet.

Same; it's borderline a background track, not the finale of an amazing track we all know and love.

 

[Pokie]

His brother said they won't say if there's FF characters because it's a spoiler. What a bunch of BS.

That means that there are FF characters in it. If there wasn't he would've just plain out would've said no.

 

[notnow123487]

That means that there are FF characters in it. If there wasn't he would've just plain out would've said no.

Thats definitely not the case. They’re not confirming or denying lots of things.

 

[Chaser]

That means that there are FF characters in it. If there wasn't he would've just plain out would've said no.

Or he's just messing with the fans. People with this kind of "power" over others love to do this kind of thing. Makes them feel like a king to know information and withhold it from others for personal enjoyment.

 

[KingMickeyMouse]

Nah sorry, the KH3 Dearly Beloved remix ABSOLUTELY feels like a finale track and the perfect rendition of the song. Those additional secondary piano cues following the classic melody are absolutely incredible!

 

[shuyin_zer0]

Thats definitely not the case. They’re not confirming or denying lots of things.

I want to agree, but he’s already dead confirmed that Aqua isn’t a Nort, so he’s definitely picking and choosing here lol

 

[Neo_]

Nah sorry, the KH3 Dearly Beloved remix ABSOLUTELY feels like a finale track and the perfect rendition of the song. Those additional secondary piano cues following the classic melody are absolutely incredible!

The orchestral backing is amazing but the lead piano is boring. Like alexis said, I'll have to wait for a full HQ version cause I hadn't even noticed those crazy piano cues in the background.

 

[darknessofheart]

I don't believe for a second that this isn't being done, at least in some capacity, for attention, otherwise they wouldn't post at all. People are still going to buy it and there would be no need to post things like "Aqua!!!!!". If you're going to do that, don't tell people not to ask for spoilers; they're just enticing people even more. I think they are having some fun in how much attention they have right now (their subscribers keep growing and growing). They seem to be pretty die hard fans, so they should know more than most how many questions about the story they are going to get.

I don't much care myself at this point since we are so close (Japan will have it in less than four weeks), but it certainly can drive one crazy listening to all these people who have the game or even claim to have it. On twitter, people claiming that they have the game are arguing with each other over the validity of their leaks, without posting any proof that they actually have the game. It's like watching two morons arguing over the punchline of a joke that didn't make sense to begin with.

I'm locked in for getting the game and I'm so used to spoiling myself in the past with watching the Japanese version when it came out months before my area, that I really enjoy spoilers. Perhaps these guys are doing it do to be respectful of people, but I really doubt it. I just think they enjoy having the power to confirm or deny what fans have been waiting on for so long. They're not bad people in my opinion (at least not on this basis alone), but I don't think they are doing this solely because they feel they can help the KH community.

It is a shame though that SE was so close to releasing the game in a spoiler free environment; the game went gold and nearly good to go.

 

[alexis.anagram]

Nah sorry, the KH3 Dearly Beloved remix ABSOLUTELY feels like a finale track and the perfect rendition of the song. Those additional secondary piano cues following the classic melody are absolutely incredible!

Tbh, I can't even hear the classic/original melody with the leaked recording. If it's there and I'm just not picking up on it, that will assuage a lot of my concerns. The orchestral backing is lovely but I just can't get into it without that iconic twinkle to lead the charge, ha.

I do miss the simplicity of the KH1 arrangement. Part of what made it so charming was how unassuming it was. I expected KH3 to build on that and vary it a bit, just like all the Dearly Beloveds, but whereas KH2, BBS and Days all felt representative of the tone and emotional qualities of their respective games, I'm not sure what this one tells me about KH3.

 

[Perkilator]

That Reddit thread’s been silent for a good 6 hours now. You think he realized he was gonna get caught on Reddit?

 

[Muke]

He's not been silent at all, they just answered questions an hour ago. Which thread are you looking at?

 

[notnow123487]

That Reddit thread’s been silent for a good 6 hours now. You think he realized he was gonna get caught on Reddit?

Yea you need to follow the accounts not the threads. The brother has been answering questions all day. He even said in one of his comments that his brother, the main guy, works during the day so they only play at night. They’re probably just booting up around now for the night.

And if they were going to be stopped, Square and Xbox would have done so already. They know whose account it is. That means they have names and addresses. They either don’t care because this is going to happen or there’s nothing they can do other than DCMA strikedowns.