Kingdom Hearts III Pre-Release Spoiler Discussion Thread

[rodx]

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Just analysing the pattern of past games,the before credits scene of the game was similar to KH 1 ending of Sora and Kairi being separated,so just a guess that the Epilogue will focus on what happened to Sora as the standard ending close the history of everyone .

 

[Squood!]

I can't shake off the feeling that Disney just started meddling during production.

 

[rac7d]

I can't shake off the feeling that Disney just started meddling during production.

which is why most keyblades now are less edgey and more ages 6 and up

 

[Squood!]

which is why most keyblades now are less edgey and more ages 6 and up

And how Vanitas and Luxord are easily taken out by Sulley and Jack.

And how the dev team had to be very restricted regarding Frozen

and how freaking Dolan just whips out a random spell that one-shots Terranort in the bad version of the beginning of KG

 

[rodx]

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If Disney has something to do we will have a better treatment of the females by their last movies .

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If something involve Disney in my opinion is the lack of Final Fantasy

And how Vanitas and Luxord are easily taken out by Sulley and Jack.

And how the dev team had to be very restricted regarding Frozen

and how freaking Dolan just whips out a random spell that one-shots Terranort in the bad version of the beginning of KG

I forget that .

 

[alexis.anagram]

Also, I'm still confused as to why Nomura said Roxas was the biggest secret in KH3. He...really isn't.

I think the secret surrounding Roxas

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is why he's still able to dual wield. Who wants to take bets he's got "her" heart inside of him and that'll be the key to rescuing the next girl in need? I'm going to laugh if it turns out to be Skuld, because she's the one KH girl-- aside from the Foretellers who I hesitate to regard as real characters-- who hasn't been reduced to a damsel or a victim yet. Ux-era has yet to be secured from the Nomura Effect, haha.

What's the point of continuing the PoH schtick and assigning new ones?

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Because this is the only way Nomura knows how to write women. I've been saying since its reveal that I didn't think there was any narrative-specific reason, certainly not to KH3, to justify this revision in the canon, it's just that Nomura does not have any imagination in terms of where his female characters can originate from, or where they can go. And KH3 went out of its way to prove that claim right. The few strong arcs we've had for women in KH have apparently been flukes, like Aqua, who Nomura consistently "underestimates" in terms of her popularity (although I've come to suspect it's not a mistake on his part), and Namine, a character whose arc Nomura obviously did not plan out given the way she's wasted in KH3. Xion is also a bit of an outlier (I know, the fandom will always debate whether she's a "good" character) because of Kanemaki's role in bringing her to life. It's just a shame that fans really gave this game the benefit of the doubt that there was some sort of design to all this, and it proved itself to be totally undeserving of that.

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

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If something involve Disney in my opinion is the lack of Final Fantasy

I forget that .

I doubt it was that. They have been reducing the number of FF characters since the Days/BBS/coded days. Nomura just genuinely didn't realize there was still a major desire to see FF characters in Kingdom Hearts because there are so many FF crossover and crossover-esque projects in existence now like World of Final Fantasy, Dissidia NT, Dissidia Opera Omnia, Brave Exvius, Mobius, Record Keeper, and beyond.

He didn't get that the appeal of FF being in KH is that we get to see Sora interact with these characters, not that that the FF characters were interacting with each other.

 

[Squood!]

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I had to freaking look up what the hell Zettaflare was to see if it was actually a spell from FF or a spell from any SE game.

It wasn't.

It's not even the name of a spell.

It's the name of a music album.

The search results were barely even related to it.

I did get this tho

 

[Deleted member 246005]

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I'm more interested in whether Roxas and Xion will play a role in future games?
Just as for me, Roxas is a popular character, besides he is nobody Sora.
Well, he also has two keyblades, which makes him too cool to completely get rid of him.

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It's anyone's guess at this point. Roxas and Xion are pretty popular so if Nomura wanted to they could do a new game for them.

From a story standpoint, KH3 wrapped their arcs up pretty well so there isn't a plot tease for them. They could play a role in Lea and Isa's quest to go find their missing friend but they would fill a supporting role more than being the leads again.

Same with Ven's tease with Chirithy and the Union Chi plot and to some degree Sora's quest to find Kairi. They could play a role but they wouldn't be the stars.

So if you want to give Roxas or Xion the lead role again, you gotta find a new desire/goal to drive them forward.

 

[Neo_]

I missed the 8 hour stream and it's since been removed; did they show anything good in terms of Disney fan service? Any more Toy Story characters, or Randall's role in Monstropolis? Do we fight Maleficent/Pete?

 

[rodx]

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Zettaflare = Kikoho,Talking about Final Fantasy, Verum Rex characters are not listed on credits, I curious about this minigame.

 

[Squood!]

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Cloud and Auron appear as statues in Olympus.

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

I had to freaking look up what the hell Zettaflare was to see if it was actually a spell from FF or a spell from any SE game.

It wasn't.

It's not even the name of a spell.

It's the name of a music album.

I had to google what you were even talking about bc it was something I hadn't seen yet and the whole scene is some fucking bullshit oh my god.

The idea of zetta flare comes off to me as a TWEWY reference more than anything...

 

[ImVentus]

And how Vanitas and Luxord are easily taken out by Sulley and Jack.

And how the dev team had to be very restricted regarding Frozen

and how freaking Dolan just whips out a random spell that one-shots Terranort in the bad version of the beginning of KG

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How Land Of Departure's restoration is like an entrance to Disney World.
How Ansem TSOD is freaking gentle around a bunch of kids
How Aqua isn't allowed to finish off Vanitas
How Aqua isn't allowed to express a realistic reaction after her most close companion is axed in front of her.
I bet there's more to give an idea, that they had limitations. With a story that was supposed to be about a bleak war
I thought this was about an impending war. But apparently you can book a tree and enjoy a Paopu fruit, the day before you fight for the end of the world

 

[Xblade13]

The thing that intrigues me the most, because I haven't seen anything about it in any of the cutscenes I have taken a peak at...

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What happens regarding Maleficent, Pete, and the black box? Does this just get started as a random plot point and left unresolved? Is it already resolved prior to the final battle, with the contents of said box seemingly not impacting the war itself? Luxord was also looking for a box, so was it really Davy Jones' chest he was looking for, or the black box? How much are we missing prior to the Keyblade Graveyard? Lol

 

[Nukara]

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It just seems to me that if the RAX trio plays a role in the future, then for sure we will see more interactions between characters that were not shown in KH3 (For example, interactions between Roxas and Ventus)

 

[RoD]

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Any idea who the “her” could be? I saw some crazy theories about Naminé but the most popular choice seems to be Skuld? I'd prefer someone that doesn't randomly end up being Isa's gf but who am I fooling, that's probably who she was (or is)

 

[rokudamia2]

I think the fact that his return is hand-waved in the game makes me believe they will be releasing more story content down the line that covers Roxas' return and his own journey

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Honestly what made me suspect Roxas may have DLC was that OathKeeper and Oblivion are not equitable keyblades

 

[Solo]

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I had to freaking look up what the hell Zettaflare was to see if it was actually a spell from FF or a spell from any SE game.

It wasn't.

It's not even the name of a spell.

It's the name of a music album.

The search results were barely even related to it.

I did get this tho

Yay for Donald being slightly useful in the fight against the baddies while he normally couldn’t be bothered to cast Curaga in times of need.

I think zettaflare follows the pattern of mega-, giga-, and teraflare. After all, zetta is a Greek prefix signifying the order of 10^21 (one billion trillion), in the same fashion that mega, giga, and tera is for one million, one billion, and one trillion respectively.

 

[Deleted member 246005]

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How Land Of Departure's restoration is like an entrance to Disney World.
How Ansem TSOD is freaking gentle around a bunch of kids
How Aqua isn't allowed to finish off Vanitas
How Aqua isn't allowed to express a realistic reaction after her most close companion is axed in front of her.
I bet there's more to give an idea, that they had limitations. With a story that was supposed to be about a bleak war
I thought this was about an impending war. But apparently you can book a tree and enjoy a Paopu fruit, the day before you fight for the end of the world

EDIT- never mind. my mistake

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Any idea who the “her” could be? I saw some crazy theories about Naminé but the most popular choice seems to be Skuld? I'd prefer someone that doesn't randomly end up being Isa's gf but who am I fooling, that's probably who she was (or is)

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It could be both someone important to Isa and someone we already met. Isa feels more attached to her so it could be a girlfriend or family or just someone he was closer with than Lea. Because Nomura is willing to have Ventus and Marluxia be from the Union era, having other characters make the jump is possible.

So having her be Skuld who became Isa's girlfriend, adoptive older sister, or a new friend is a possible answer.