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Re: Kingdom Hearts: Hearts in Unison (Chapter 46 posted)

So, Anti-Sora is riding on Sora's own connection with Riku in order to reach Vanitas, for what I understood.

About that black wall, I figured as soon as I saw the Anti-Sora in action that it would be him that made it.

Exactly, Anti-Sora could also opt to use his direct connection to Vanitas, but due to the current state of Vanitas' heart more than telephatically talking through it (like they already do) would probably not end well on Vanitas' end.
As of now, not counting Xehanort, Anti-Sora is probably the most powerful entity around, his main handicap coming from the fact that he cannot leave the dark depths of Sora's heart yet. Thus, he cannot actually reach the ones he wants to torment (except Xion) yet in person, only slightly influence them and amplify the pain they already have, as shown with Roxas.

Besides keeping Sora out, the wall serves also to keep him ignorant to the truth and in the unknown of what is happening, as these things increase anxiety and turmoil, which in the end benefits and strengthens Anti-Sora.
Some of the behaviour seen in Sora so far through the story that may seem way too "un-Sora-like" also stems from this, as Anti-Sora is trying to subtly influence Sora and prey on his natural desire to help and protect others.
That's also one of the reasons why I said that I was surprised in what direction Dream Drop Distance went, as I planned a similar scenario already in 2011 before DDD was even a thing, only with the difference that it isn't Xehanort doing all this, but Vanitas and Sora's own darkness working in tandem.

Wow, that's a new tibit from you, Sephy, and it's interesting when I think of it. I do wonder if Sora is really aware of what's going on deep inside his heart, despite being blocked access of it?

So far Sora is aware of nothing but a vague feeling that something is going awfully wrong in his heart.

But he could feel it.. It is his heart, after all.

That depends on what feeling you're referring to. The "harbingers of torment" have nothing directly to do with Anti-Sora, but mainly with Roxas and slightly with Ven.
 

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Re: Kingdom Hearts: Hearts in Unison (Chapter 46 posted)

Soo... Is it time for updates, Selphy? :3 I'm getting anxious over this, haha. xD
 

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Re: Kingdom Hearts: Hearts in Unison (Chapter 46 posted)

Soo... Is it time for updates, Selphy? :3 I'm getting anxious over this, haha. xD

Geez yeah, I'm like a week late, lol. But I do not have an excuse, RL is more important than the net sometimes.

Here we go with chapter 47:

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XLVII. The unexpected enemy

The creature gave her an odd, sort of disbelieving look before folding his wings and let one hand meet his forehead.
["Oh dear crap. Are you always this slow-witted? I don't force you to empower me, silly, you all suffering tremendously IS already what empowers me. You're all my little, inexhaustible batteries I only need to take into my grip and squeeze so that you squirm. Venny and Roxy already delivered me so much tasty power, ehehehe, the hearts I am connected to are my power INDEED!!!"]

The girl's facial expressions derailed into an intense mask of horror as she grasped the severity of the things the demon just described.
"You...you're using them as your energy slaves? By tormenting them mercilessly without pause? You do not only look like a Monster, you ARE one, even worse than Xemnas!!!"

Appalled, she flung her right arm around to summon her Keyblade in order to attack the demonic Sora, but nothing happened.
"What?"
Xion repeated the movement in a more hectic speed, the demonic Sora crossing his arms before his chest with a smug grin.

["Hehe, got a problem? Oh man, I am aware way shorter than you, and yet already superior in every way!"]
"Huh? What do you mean?"
The raven-haired girl blinked confused.
["I mean, sweetie, that my awakening wasn't that long ago and I am nonetheless way stronger than you broken tool."]
The dark Sora raised his arms, two Keyblades appearing in a dark flash above him where they remained, hovering in place.
The blades were a darkened, ashen looking Oathkeeper and an Oblivion even more dark than the normal version.

"Nngh..." She repeated her arm motion two more times, trying to summon her own weapon.
["Pfft, just flailing around won't help at all. Why don't you do it like you always did? Suck off Roxy's powers in order to summon a Keyblade! After all, that's how you got it in the first place."]
"Shut up! I would only hurt him by doing that!"
["Indeed..."]
He licked his lips again as if awaiting to taste something very delicious soon, freaking her out another time.

Aaagh, no, he's toying with me...and most likely feeding on my suffering too right now. He has the same connections as Sora, knows much about us who are inside him and has only recently awakened...? That's...yeah!
After thinking the subtle hints given out by the demon through more focused, the cold realization finally hit her.

Xion stiffened, her expression changing into a focused and determined one as she confronted the demon upright another time, pointing her right index finger at him.
"Now I understand. You were only awakened not long ago and have vast knowledge about Sora's heart which you shouldn't have since you're not him. I admit, I have to at least partially take back my word on the last point: You're not the Sora we are hoping for to save us, you are the opposite, you are Sora's darkness which has got an own will and consciousness!!!"

["Ah, so you finally figured it out, huh? Better late than never, although it remains to be seen if it helps you anything. Ehehehe, you can't stop me! On the contrary, you will also make some great contributions to my growing powers with your own torment and the additional new pain that will be added when you have to see and FEEL your beloved ones suffering as well!"]
With these words he raised one arm upwards towards her and the floating Oathkeeper and Oblivion dived at her like arrows, controlled by telekinesis.

Dodging aside, she answered by shooting a Fira-spell at him before she needed to dodge another time as the two flying Keyblades chased after her.
["Laughable!"]
He spread out only his left wing and swatted the Fira-projectile away like a tennis ball, his dark red aura only flickering once.
["This won't ever be a fight if you try to fight fire with sparks, poppet."]
His mocking tone infuriated Xion, yet she knew she should not let herself get provoked by his cutting remarks, so she chose to not answer at all.

After she dodged them a third time, the two darkened Keyblades returned to the demonic Sora, floating above his head like two giant, disjointed horns.
The smug, creepy smile returned as he crossed his arms again.

["Already out of ideas? Come on, you surely can do more than just a filthy fire spell."]

She gritted her teeth in frustration. No, you won't goad me into hurting my best friend in order to gain more power to fight you!

The demon suddenly tilted his head and his expression changed to an annoyed one.
["What the heck are you prattling about now, you weakling? I just saved your sorry little ass and gave you an opportunity to refresh your hearts' energy. Now just absorb the remaining power of the attack and kick that annoying guy out. Do I really have to explain every little step for you?"]
To Xion's surprise he was apparently talking with someone else through a mental link.
That could be my chance...

["Seriously buddy, has that guy punched the common sense out of you? Since when are you concerned about your host "getting wind" of things? You had already no problem manifesting your own energy through his arm and even create some of those weird critters you can spawn in order to test how far you've recuperated, so becoming concerned about secrecy NOW is just a ridiculous brain fart on your part."]
He folded both wings completely and started to walk back and forth on the tiny island, having apparently completely forgotten about Xion even being there.

["Tsk, now what? You got damaged more again by fighting that guy? Man, you sure are worthless...get on your goddamn feet and use the energy my attack provided, fool, as long as he's trapped in the intense torment he's an easy target! After that, you can use that energy to regain access to your host's darkness."]

Xion started to gather as much energy in her hand as she could, steadily adding magic as to form an attack that he would not be able to just swat away with his wings.

He chuckled in a mean tone again.
["Yeah, great, you triggered my awareness, so what? Instead of continuosly wasting energy by raging and snapping at me you should get get things done already, remember I’m your partner, not your servant. Y'know, your nearly destroyed heart would make another great energy battery of torment to fuel my powers with, just like Venny's, so you better cherish our agreement or I may need to modify it if you become too annoying."]

As he turned yet another time, his smug, sadistic grin had intensified.
["Now that's a good rage there, only wasted at the wrong address. Ehehehehe, you idiot, if you don't want me to use him, you should speed up already and prepare to cross over. Oh? Is that a true revocation of our alliance? Then I should probably re-evaluate my priorities...no? Great, now we are talking, you wouldn't stand a chance against me by now anyways. I have already absorbed much of the created energy from the pain I caused and intensified in here, so you would be MUCH better off being a bit more friendly towards me. After all, I do see some value in our partnership as well, or I wouldn't even put up with your annoying little ass. Remember our entire plan, numbskull, and don't let your overblown emotions jeopardize things! Not to mention, as a little additional advice: The more intense your emotions become, the more damage your crippled heart gets in turn, that goes especially for negative ones. So by the true darkness, calm friggin' DOWN!"]

She silently counted from twenty downwards as the demonic Sora now actually turned his back towards her.
["Relax man, I know we have agreed Venny will be yours in the end. I won't cause that much damage that he'll be so completely broken that he's useless. That would be counterproductive to our long-term goals anyways. I will just toy with him a little, not much different than you plan as well...ah, now cut it out, you're talking like an insanely jealous homicidal maniac. Instead take some preparations now so you can actually move our main plan forwards!"]

Now, let's go!
Raising her hand with the gathered energy up Xion blasted the condensed magical energy as an roaring storm of ice at the creature without saying a word.

["Hah? Another try poppet? What's it this time...hurrgh."]
Realizing Xion had started another attack, he turned his head slightly towards her, his smug smile disappearing the second he realized what form of attack it was.
Swirling around again too late, he didn't manage to block this time, the ice-storm apparently freezing him solid.

"It worked!" She shouted with relief.
["Oh! Wow, that's pretty cold. I admit I got a bit careless, but y'know poppet, how long to you think this ice-prison can actually hold me?"]
"What?"
To her horror she saw the dark red aura around the demon's body flaring up more, the thick ice slowly starting to melt.
["Heheheh, Roxy and Venny are still steadily continuing to suffer, offering me more energy due to our connections. My, my, I even dare to assume Venny overstrained himself with trying to shield Roxy...what excellent, delicious pain..."]

"You...you're totally depraved! Disgusting!" Xion snapped at him, hissing like a snake in her outrage.

["Even better...your rage builds up also from pain, your pain not be able to do anything. Soon you'll get retribution for the ice-storm, sweetie, and your erupting agony then will only further strengthen my powers even more!"]

"Shut up! I...I..." She struggled hard in contemplation how to bring down the demon in order to help Roxas and the unknown other boy, coming to no working conclusion.
Me encasing him in ice immobilized him, but does not help any against him using our suffering to power himself up.

["Yes, yes, get more into distress, ehehe."]

"Noo! Sora, you need to do something, your heart and all those connected to you are in grave danger!!!" Xion shouted upwards as loud as she could manage.

More mean chuckling was heard from the demon, damped by the ice surrounding him.
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Meanwhile, Roxas had not moved one inch from his kneeling position at the stained glass platform, Ven's glowing heart still held softly against his chest in his left hand.

The tension of putting up a tough facade in order to defy the mysterious cold voice gone, the boy finally realized how strongly hurt he really was.
He pressed his erratically twitching free hand hard against his aching forehead while gulping back more sobbing, the tears still not subsiding despite him stubbornly trying to stop them.

Helpless again. Hnnnrrr...I'm so sick of being someone's toy in some weird scheme. My head and chest burn and hurt like there were several daggers driven right through them.
Sora, what in all worlds is happening here? Why would you allow this? And Ven...using his own energy to...
Terrified, Roxas head shot upwards while he hastily raised Ven's heart in his hand as he remembered Ventus collapsing after dismissing the wind shield.
...no, please don't be...

Holding the heart before his face, the blonde could see that the red tint in the golden aura had intensified, some of the thin cracks on its surface apparently bleeding.
“Uh, uuhuh, no! He really overdid it…and only because of me.” His lips starting to tremble as he tearfully spoke aloud, Roxas settled the heart down on the platform with uttermost care.
I have to go back into his heart and tend to him, that’s the only thing I can do.

As if it had heard him, the heart began to glow a bit stronger, the cracked walkway appearing shortly after.
Ignoring his own hammering pain Roxas staggered back into Ven’s heart as fast as he could manage, not resting one second until he had reached the shattered main platform again.

His fears were confirmed as he finally spotted Ven’s lying form, his Keyblade still stuck in the ground beside him, in a way worse state than before he had left.That’s why I heard no more sobbing. It was so much for him he actually fainted.

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I'll just leave that here without any further comments again, since the chapter speaks again for itself. ;)
 

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Re: Kingdom Hearts: Hearts in Unison (Chapter 46 posted)

This is a painful chapter.. :(

Gr, I want to smack that Anti-Sora in the face with my Keyblade! :mad:

So, it was too much for Ven that he actually fainted, huh? He really overdid it too much..
 

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Another awesome chapter. That Anti Sora......words cannot describe how much I'm hating him right know.
 

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I like hearing Anti-Sora bicker with Vanitas. It's amusing to listen to him go on and on. Completely absorbed in his own converstation. And to think, I almost thought Xion had him too. Sephy, you can be quite the tease. ;3

I'm sorry to hear Ventus suffered far greater than Roxas had. I'm begining to wonder if, either boy truly has a chance of getting out this alive.
 

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Just fantastic. On the middle of a fight, Vanitas decides to make a cellphone call on him to discuss the agreement terms XD quite enough time for Xion to make something useful.

As for Roxas, it seems that he's getting quite stranded on Ventus' platform for a while.
 

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Re: Kingdom Hearts: Hearts in Unison (Chapter 46 posted)

This is a painful chapter.. :(

Gr, I want to smack that Anti-Sora in the face with my Keyblade! :mad:

So, it was too much for Ven that he actually fainted, huh? He really overdid it too much..

It was intended to be.

Heh, looks like I envisioned a good villain then. *ggg*

Yep, if Roxas would have been a tiny bit slower to step out of that beam Ven would have been forced to drop the shield involuntary.
We'll see shortly if Roxas can do anything, as if you recall earlier him being inside Ven's heart helped Ven to heal faster.


Another awesome chapter. That Anti Sora......words cannot describe how much I'm hating him right know.

Thank you.
Really? Heh, I guess your reaction is very similar to Xion's then when he explains what he does.
But it's true, he's really a sicko and the way he increases his power is very depraved.

I like hearing Anti-Sora bicker with Vanitas. It's amusing to listen to him go on and on. Completely absorbed in his own converstation. And to think, I almost thought Xion had him too. Sephy, you can be quite the tease. ;3

I'm sorry to hear Ventus suffered far greater than Roxas had. I'm begining to wonder if, either boy truly has a chance of getting out this alive.

Vanitas is playing way over his head right now, lol, as his fight with Terra greatly weakened him and despite Vanitas actually creating this Anti-Sora, the demon has really no intention to let himself being commandeered around by him. The attack that also "scratched" Roxas is actually directed at Terra, and since Vanitas' heart is in a similar state to Ven's you probably can imagine what the full brunt of the attack may do cuz Terra is, right now, inside Vanitas' heart.
On that background it is probably understandable why Vanitas would be pissed at Anti-Sora.

It was really a smart move on Xion's part, as if anything it buys her some time because she cannot use a Keyblade right now (at least not without leeching off power from Roxas, and by proxy, Sora). The ice storm didn't really harm Anti-Sora much, but it does immobilize him and it will take some time for him to melt the ice.

If I had to evaluate it I would say that Roxas and Ven got about the same amount of "punishment", yet Ven may look worse because Roxas is generally in a better shape so he can endure it a bit better. It's as Anti-Sora pointed out, Ven sacrificed much of the progress he made in healing his heart in order to help Roxas. If his healing had not been sped up due to Roxas' presence in earlier chapters, he might really have got irrepabale damage.
Since this is all on the "heart"-layer of reality (and thus practically involves mostly the inner selves/spirits who cannot "die" in a normal sense), the repercussions of such irrepable damage would be something very unpleasant and worse than "death", but going deeper into that would spoil some later things.
Let's also say that too much damage to either Roxas or Ven would also be not in Anti-Sora's interests (you cannot absorb energy from created painful emotions if the spirit in question cannot be tormented/tortured anymore).

Just fantastic. On the middle of a fight, Vanitas decides to make a cellphone call on him to discuss the agreement terms XD quite enough time for Xion to make something useful.

As for Roxas, it seems that he's getting quite stranded on Ventus' platform for a while.

Heh, well, for one Vanitas is totally pissed at Anti-Sora right now and second he doesn't know that Anti-Sora is currently in a fight. And if he knew, he probably wouldn't care...it's Vanitas we're talking about after all.
As we will see, the reason for Vanitas' anger lies in Anti-Sora's attack, which is actually a lucky development for Xion since in the current configuration she wouldn't stand much of a chance against Anti-Sora, which he knows and which is why he even dares to turn his back to her while having the mental conversation with Vanitas.
Currently, Anti-Sora does not see Xion as much of a threat, but rather another additional "battery" he can use.

Probably, as it would be very cold and uncaring if Roxas left Ven like this. Not to mention that he has still to struggle with the effects the torture beam had on himself as well, despite enduring it better overall.
 

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Re: Kingdom Hearts: Hearts in Unison (Chapter 46 posted)

Okay, I would have never guessed that the menace was Sora’s darkness taking on a consciousness of it’s own, similar to how Vanitas is Ven’s darkness with a consciousness of it’s own. This also explains why he’s so similar to Vanitas in terms of personality.
Personally, because of all the ice/cold references and the fact that it involved memories, I was expecting it to be a replica or something else related to Even, seeing he’s closely connected to the element of ice, memories and has ties to Ven, Sora and Roxas.

Xion sleeping in the dark was a real nice touch and it really fits, seeing she’s basically a being made of memories that has been forgotten. I find it interesting that she still shares such a strong connection with Roxas, that she even feel his pain.
I also really love, how we get to see Xion approche Sora’s darkness during his conversation with Roxas and Ven and getting to see her point of view.

It’s also a nice touch for Xion to be unable to call the keyblade, seeing that in days she was constantly using Roxas’ power to call it and use it. But what surprised me was that even her magic was weak, seeing that even when her connection to Roxas was weak and she couldn’t use the Keyblade during Days her magic was pretty good.

I’m really looking forward to seeing how Xion will get out of this one and how Ven's going to get better after this.
 

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Re: Kingdom Hearts: Hearts in Unison (Chapter 46 posted)

Roxas will sure have a lot of time to think on all the memories he had seen, including Axel's.

Maybe later, as right now his concerns are more directed towards Ven's worsened status and what he can do to improve that.
After all, Roxas' presence in the first place was what allowed the healing of Ven's heart to "speed up" so that he could even use that Wind Shield.

Hmm, I wonder how all of this is effecting Sora... :confused:

Hi there, always good to hear from more readers. :D

It won't be too long before we see the effects of all these "heart-connection-wars" for both Sora and Riku.

He doesn't even knows who is erecting that black wall between him and his own heart.

While he doesn't know who, Sora certainly does know that there is something wrong inside his heart.
Considering the circumstances he might rethink also his aim to look into the issue alone first as well.

Okay, I would have never guessed that the menace was Sora’s darkness taking on a consciousness of it’s own, similar to how Vanitas is Ven’s darkness with a consciousness of it’s own. This also explains why he’s so similar to Vanitas in terms of personality.
Personally, because of all the ice/cold references and the fact that it involved memories, I was expecting it to be a replica or something else related to Even, seeing he’s closely connected to the element of ice, memories and has ties to Ven, Sora and Roxas.

Xion sleeping in the dark was a real nice touch and it really fits, seeing she’s basically a being made of memories that has been forgotten. I find it interesting that she still shares such a strong connection with Roxas, that she even feel his pain.
I also really love, how we get to see Xion approche Sora’s darkness during his conversation with Roxas and Ven and getting to see her point of view.

It’s also a nice touch for Xion to be unable to call the keyblade, seeing that in days she was constantly using Roxas’ power to call it and use it. But what surprised me was that even her magic was weak, seeing that even when her connection to Roxas was weak and she couldn’t use the Keyblade during Days her magic was pretty good.

I’m really looking forward to seeing how Xion will get out of this one and how Ven's going to get better after this.

I see, well, I did give out some subtle hints early on, but of course it was not meant to be guessed that easily. The last part of the mental conversation between Anti-Sora and Roxas as well as Xion's small "journey" before she confronts him were actually the first substantial hints I intended to be there.
Anti-Sora's consciousness developed in small steps ever since Sora went to sleep in CoM because when Naminé reconstructed Sora's memories, Anti-Sora sat there and watched from afar, learning slowly.
However, when Roxas and Xion were merged into Sora he got some serious boosts because he could look at their memories and feelings too.
When he discovered that their hurt feelings and emotional pain can be transformed into power by using Darkness and their connection with Sora's heart, that was when he started to evolve rapidly and eventually noticed Ven's heart being there.

That said though, the one initiating all this was Vanitas, as when Riku's heart resonated with Sora's (which led Riku eventually to Castle Oblivion), he used that opportunity to give Sora's darkness a sort of awakening.

It's an interesting guess, yet if we go by the premise that it would be another Replica, how would that one get into Sora's heart?


I knew from the beginning when I planned the story that Xion's situation would have to be something special, as having her running around the awakening platforms like Roxas would not have fit her status of being forgotten. Then I remembered in KH 1 when Sora fell into Darkness he says to Kairi that he started to forget things and in CoM Naminé explained that memories, while they can be forgotten, never truly fade away completely.
If Darkness is good for anything it is to hide stuff, as Riku says to Xemnas in KH 2, it is not the Darkness itself that is the problem, but many of the things that hide in it (just as Anti-Sora right now too).
So where do forgotten memories go? Where are they stored despite being inaccessible? Answer: In the Darkness.
And thus the idea to have Xion placed down there and be the first to meet the main antagonist of the first arc was born.

The connection between Xion and Roxas is still intact, though dampened due to her being in the Darkness. Heh, glad you like that one, I mainly made it to illustrate that the stuff we see with Roxas and Ven and Xion awakening and then approaching Anti-Sora takes place all at the same time. We'll see another issue like this soon when we get to know the responses to the statements Anti-Sora makes towards his "partner".

Yeah, when she disappeared at the end of Days she gave all power she absorbed unwittingly from Roxas back. So all power she has now stems from her own memories and possibly something else. ;)
It isn't really that her magic is so weak, but rather that Anti-Sora is right now way too strong. If Riku would unleash a Dark Firaga at him or Donald would use some of his magic, it would have the same effect.
Whenever the tormented ones connected to Sora (and Sora himself as well) suffer, Anti-Sora leeches on that negativity and converts it into power for himself. It's like a tasty meal for him, that's also why he enjoys torturing so much and suggests Xion should summon a Keyblade the way she used to.

Since actually "killing" Xion (if you even can kill a spirit, as all this takes place on the heart-layer of reality) would be not in Anti-Sora's interest, Xion's main goal for now would be to prevent him from gaining even more power and disrupt his agenda as much as possible in order to slow him down and give others time to react.
Regarding Ven, we already saw glimpses of what is possible in earlier chapters, and we'll see that soon enough. ^__^
 

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Re: Kingdom Hearts: Hearts in Unison (Chapter 46 posted)

I see, well, I did give out some subtle hints early on, but of course it was not meant to be guessed that easily. The last part of the mental conversation between Anti-Sora and Roxas as well as Xion's small "journey" before she confronts him were actually the first substantial hints I intended to be there.
Anti-Sora's consciousness developed in small steps ever since Sora went to sleep in CoM because when Naminé reconstructed Sora's memories, Anti-Sora sat there and watched from afar, learning slowly.
However, when Roxas and Xion were merged into Sora he got some serious boosts because he could look at their memories and feelings too.
When he discovered that their hurt feelings and emotional pain can be transformed into power by using Darkness and their connection with Sora's heart, that was when he started to evolve rapidly and eventually noticed Ven's heart being there.

That said though, the one initiating all this was Vanitas, as when Riku's heart resonated with Sora's (which led Riku eventually to Castle Oblivion), he used that opportunity to give Sora's darkness a sort of awakening.

It's an interesting guess, yet if we go by the premise that it would be another Replica, how would that one get into Sora's heart?

Yeah, there probably were a lot of subtle hints I missed, while focusing on the wrong "hints". I guess a reason to why I didn't think it was Anti-Sora was because in KH2 he seemed so feral and in this story he's very cruel and somewhat calculating. Then again this Anti-Sora might not be the same as one that came out with the Anti-form, seeing he a few differences.
Another possibility is that Anti-Sora didn't learn how to transform the pain and hurt into power until after the events of KH2 and wasn't as powerful nor intelligent back then.

Well, that would have depended on what it was made of. A possibility would be that he'd be made out of Sora's some of darker memories and therefor had a link to Sora, which he could have used. This could have also served as a way to explain why Sora post CoM seemed so much more cheerful, seeing he's dark memories were partly missing. Though this would probably not work because Sora would have probably needed those memories to wake up similar to how he needed the memories Xion had to wake up.
Another possibility would have been that he could have been a replica of all of the tormented ones and therefor shared their connection to Sora and had their memories or something along does lines.

I knew from the beginning when I planned the story that Xion's situation would have to be something special, as having her running around the awakening platforms like Roxas would not have fit her status of being forgotten. Then I remembered in KH 1 when Sora fell into Darkness he says to Kairi that he started to forget things and in CoM Naminé explained that memories, while they can be forgotten, never truly fade away completely.
If Darkness is good for anything it is to hide stuff, as Riku says to Xemnas in KH 2, it is not the Darkness itself that is the problem, but many of the things that hide in it (just as Anti-Sora right now too).
So where do forgotten memories go? Where are they stored despite being inaccessible? Answer: In the Darkness.
And thus the idea to have Xion placed down there and be the first to meet the main antagonist of the first arc was born.

The connection between Xion and Roxas is still intact, though dampened due to her being in the Darkness. Heh, glad you like that one, I mainly made it to illustrate that the stuff we see with Roxas and Ven and Xion awakening and then approaching Anti-Sora takes place all at the same time. We'll see another issue like this soon when we get to know the responses to the statements Anti-Sora makes towards his "partner".

Yeah, when she disappeared at the end of Days she gave all power she absorbed unwittingly from Roxas back. So all power she has now stems from her own memories and possibly something else. ;)
It isn't really that her magic is so weak, but rather that Anti-Sora is right now way too strong. If Riku would unleash a Dark Firaga at him or Donald would use some of his magic, it would have the same effect.
Whenever the tormented ones connected to Sora (and Sora himself as well) suffer, Anti-Sora leeches on that negativity and converts it into power for himself. It's like a tasty meal for him, that's also why he enjoys torturing so much and suggests Xion should summon a Keyblade the way she used to.

Since actually "killing" Xion (if you even can kill a spirit, as all this takes place on the heart-layer of reality) would be not in Anti-Sora's interest, Xion's main goal for now would be to prevent him from gaining even more power and disrupt his agenda as much as possible in order to slow him down and give others time to react.
Regarding Ven, we already saw glimpses of what is possible in earlier chapters, and we'll see that soon enough. ^__^

It really does make a lot of sense, because like you said it wouldn't reallybe very logical for her to be in a similar state and situation like Roxas, seeing not only was she forgotten, but she is also an entirely different kind of being and wasn't as active as Roxas was during the events of KH2.
I kind of feel like it was also stated in CoM that the forgotten memories lie in the darkness of ones heart. Though I do wonder what happens to the forgotten memories of a PoH or some one like Ven.

Ah, so we'll get to see Vanita's side of that conversation. Thought it was a little weird we didn't see what he was saying in the chapter, but now that makes sense.

That sounds quite interesting.
Okay, so it's not really that she's weak, but rather her attack are ineffective against Anti-Sora, because he's now collected enough negative energy to be way more powerful than our poor hero.
It seems like right now, unless she has some hidden "magical girl power of love" thing going on, she's in quite a pickle. She'll have to tread lightly after all if she gets angry Anti-Sora gets the more powerful, same goes for when she's hurt by her opponent, which makes fighting pretty not an option and the whole a lot harder to over come.

While she probably can't be killed, she probably still feels pain, which leaves her in a much worse predicament then it would be on a physical plane, where death is possible.
 

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Yeah, there probably were a lot of subtle hints I missed, while focusing on the wrong "hints". I guess a reason to why I didn't think it was Anti-Sora was because in KH2 he seemed so feral and in this story he's very cruel and somewhat calculating. Then again this Anti-Sora might not be the same as one that came out with the Anti-form, seeing he a few differences.
Another possibility is that Anti-Sora didn't learn how to transform the pain and hurt into power until after the events of KH2 and wasn't as powerful nor intelligent back then.

That just shows that I knew how to make them subtle enough so they aren't totally obvious. If readers could directly pinpoint his identity when he is first mentioned/involved without him really appearing, I would have done something wrong, lol.
So everything is good game here.
The Anti-Sora from Anti-Form in KH 2 is actually a case of Sora himself tapping into his Darkness, effectively accessing some of Anti-Sora's power. While I said that Anti-Sora got some serious boosts that helped to form his consciousness when Roxas and Xion were merged with Sora, that doesn't mean he already got enough power to actually pose a threat to Sora or anyone inside himself.
Yep, you're entirely correct on that one, learning how to transform the negative emotions of the suffering characters into power didn't actually come into the picture until shortly before Anti-Sora found Ven's heart. The discovery of both actually went hand in hand as there was a very heavy surge of pain and hurt from both Ven's and Sora's heart once. This issue will be elaborated on later, and it has partly to do with Roxas' unknowingly "torture" of Ven's heart, which prepared the base of it but also with Terra and Xemnas. Both Master Xehanort and Ventus will eventually shine some light on that one, but I do not want to get ahead of things in the narrative.

Well, that would have depended on what it was made of. A possibility would be that he'd be made out of Sora's some of darker memories and therefor had a link to Sora, which he could have used. This could have also served as a way to explain why Sora post CoM seemed so much more cheerful, seeing he's dark memories were partly missing. Though this would probably not work because Sora would have probably needed those memories to wake up similar to how he needed the memories Xion had to wake up.
Another possibility would have been that he could have been a replica of all of the tormented ones and therefor shared their connection to Sora and had their memories or something along does lines.
An interesting take on it, although you already point out the flaw in this as well with the factor of Naminé. Not only would these memories be needed to wake up Sora too, Naminé was working for a year to restore Sora's memories, so she would have noticed those darker memories missing and she would also eventually realize if they are not within neither Xion nor Roxas.
Then again, how would the Replica/the Replica's heart get inside Sora's heart?

It really does make a lot of sense, because like you said it wouldn't reallybe very logical for her to be in a similar state and situation like Roxas, seeing not only was she forgotten, but she is also an entirely different kind of being and wasn't as active as Roxas was during the events of KH2.
I kind of feel like it was also stated in CoM that the forgotten memories lie in the darkness of ones heart. Though I do wonder what happens to the forgotten memories of a PoH or some one like Ven.

Ah, so we'll get to see Vanita's side of that conversation. Thought it was a little weird we didn't see what he was saying in the chapter, but now that makes sense.
Indeed, that's also why I try to stay as close to the canon dealings when I developed the scenarios for HiU. ;)
As for forgotten memories of the PoH and Ven, I guess that instead of the Darkness they would be kept in an area of the heart that is blanketed with very intense light. A light so intense that everything is plain white so the memories cannot be accessed, it would have much the same effect than them sinking into the Darkness.

The main reason I did not provide Vanitas' side of the conversation is because he talks mentally with Anti-Sora and the point of view in the chapter is from Xion's side. As the answers are only hearable in Anti-Sora's head it would be weird if Xion could hear them.
That's also why I didn't show Anti-Sora's answers with Vanitas in their earlier conversations, because the POV was from Terra's side and he was wondering if Vanitas was talking with himself.

That sounds quite interesting.
Okay, so it's not really that she's weak, but rather her attack are ineffective against Anti-Sora, because he's now collected enough negative energy to be way more powerful than our poor hero.
It seems like right now, unless she has some hidden "magical girl power of love" thing going on, she's in quite a pickle. She'll have to tread lightly after all if she gets angry Anti-Sora gets the more powerful, same goes for when she's hurt by her opponent, which makes fighting pretty not an option and the whole a lot harder to over come.

While she probably can't be killed, she probably still feels pain, which leaves her in a much worse predicament then it would be on a physical plane, where death is possible.

I've already prepared something more in that regard, lol, so it may become even more interesting later.
Exactly, then furthermore you have to remember that she first just used Fira, a second-level fire spell which isn't that strong either, lol. For the ice-storm she gathere more of her energy and while it didn't really do much damage, Anti-Sora was immobilized and still hurt by it as his "this is pretty cold"-statement is an equivalent of saying "Ouch", *ggg*.
Of course she's in quite a problematic situation right now, yet still unlike Roxas, Ven, Sora or even Riku she can act right now. The main question is however how she will handle the situation and what tactic she deploys. Right now she has some room to breathe and think since Anti-Sora is immobilized.
Fighting him head-on and risk being incapacitated is surely not an option, so her best bet right now is stalling for time as much as possible. Every minute Anti-Sora is occupied with Xion he cannot torment Ven and Roxas further, giving the twins both time to recover and also takes off his attention from Vanitas' situation as well as the wall surrounding Sora's heart.

I can say already that eventually Xion will get help against Anti-Sora from Riku, but that's still quite some time in the future. However, there is something else that could help beforehand if Xion manages to find it. ;)

That's true, and also a urgent reason as to why she also cannot risk to be captured by Anti-Sora as well.
 

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So.. when are we getting another chapter in? :3
 

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That just shows that I knew how to make them subtle enough so they aren't totally obvious. If readers could directly pinpoint his identity when he is first mentioned/involved without him really appearing, I would have done something wrong, lol.
So everything is good game here.
The Anti-Sora from Anti-Form in KH 2 is actually a case of Sora himself tapping into his Darkness, effectively accessing some of Anti-Sora's power. While I said that Anti-Sora got some serious boosts that helped to form his consciousness when Roxas and Xion were merged with Sora, that doesn't mean he already got enough power to actually pose a threat to Sora or anyone inside himself.
Yep, you're entirely correct on that one, learning how to transform the negative emotions of the suffering characters into power didn't actually come into the picture until shortly before Anti-Sora found Ven's heart. The discovery of both actually went hand in hand as there was a very heavy surge of pain and hurt from both Ven's and Sora's heart once. This issue will be elaborated on later, and it has partly to do with Roxas' unknowingly "torture" of Ven's heart, which prepared the base of it but also with Terra and Xemnas. Both Master Xehanort and Ventus will eventually shine some light on that one, but I do not want to get ahead of things in the narrative.

I guess it does.
I kind of thought that might be the case, well actually I thought of it being more along the lines off Anti-Sora’s power seeping through Sora and slightly affecting him.
It makes sense that Anti-Sora didn’t get a serious boost right away, seeing he’d probably need some time to learn how to take advantage of the situation and how to stay at least slightly hidden until he's strong enough.
Okay I’m guessing, that he didn’t find Ven’s heart until recently, seeing he didn't really become active until recently. That sounds interesting can’t wait to see it unfold in the story.

An interesting take on it, although you already point out the flaw in this as well with the factor of Naminé. Not only would these memories be needed to wake up Sora too, Naminé was working for a year to restore Sora's memories, so she would have noticed those darker memories missing and she would also eventually realize if they are not within neither Xion nor Roxas.
Then again, how would the Replica/the Replica's heart get inside Sora's heart?

Well theoretically it could be possible that Riku destroys this Replica in the time between his disappearance Chain of Memories and his appearance in Days. This could also serve as a way to get around that problem and explain how it got into Sora’s heart.


Indeed, that's also why I try to stay as close to the canon dealings when I developed the scenarios for HiU. ;)
As for forgotten memories of the PoH and Ven, I guess that instead of the Darkness they would be kept in an area of the heart that is blanketed with very intense light. A light so intense that everything is plain white so the memories cannot be accessed, it would have much the same effect than them sinking into the Darkness.

The main reason I did not provide Vanitas' side of the conversation is because he talks mentally with Anti-Sora and the point of view in the chapter is from Xion's side. As the answers are only hearable in Anti-Sora's head it would be weird if Xion could hear them.
That's also why I didn't show Anti-Sora's answers with Vanitas in their earlier conversations, because the POV was from Terra's side and he was wondering if Vanitas was talking with himself.

Well you sticking to the canon and working around it also helps a the quality of your Fan Fic in my opinion.
I guess that would make sense, seeing you’re just as blind in overly bright light as you’d be in darkness.

I hadn’t thought of that. Now that I consider that it’s all from her point of view it makes a lot of sense.

I've already prepared something more in that regard, lol, so it may become even more interesting later.
Exactly, then furthermore you have to remember that she first just used Fira, a second-level fire spell which isn't that strong either, lol. For the ice-storm she gathere more of her energy and while it didn't really do much damage, Anti-Sora was immobilized and still hurt by it as his "this is pretty cold"-statement is an equivalent of saying "Ouch", *ggg*.
Of course she's in quite a problematic situation right now, yet still unlike Roxas, Ven, Sora or even Riku she can act right now. The main question is however how she will handle the situation and what tactic she deploys. Right now she has some room to breathe and think since Anti-Sora is immobilized.
Fighting him head-on and risk being incapacitated is surely not an option, so her best bet right now is stalling for time as much as possible. Every minute Anti-Sora is occupied with Xion he cannot torment Ven and Roxas further, giving the twins both time to recover and also takes off his attention from Vanitas' situation as well as the wall surrounding Sora's heart.

I can say already that eventually Xion will get help against Anti-Sora from Riku, but that's still quite some time in the future. However, there is something else that could help beforehand if Xion manages to find it. ;)

That's true, and also a urgent reason as to why she also cannot risk to be captured by Anti-Sora as well.

Sounds good.
Well Fira is a middle level Fire spell so it should still hold some oomph. Well isn't another reason why the Ice-Strom affective not also because she kind of caught Vanitas off guard.

I guess she does have the advantage in that regard though her possibilities to act seem to be very limited. Her opponent clearly out matches her at the moment, so as you said right now a direct assault isn’t really an option right now so she’ll have to be creative while she’s trying to stall for time and hope that back up comes soon.
 

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Re: Kingdom Hearts: Hearts in Unison (Chapter 46 posted)

So.. when are we getting another chapter in? :3

Possibly this coming weekend.
Although I do have to admit that KH HD 1.5 ReMix is gobbling up nearly all of my attention in free time right now.

I guess it does.
I kind of thought that might be the case, well actually I thought of it being more along the lines off Anti-Sora’s power seeping through Sora and slightly affecting him.
It makes sense that Anti-Sora didn’t get a serious boost right away, seeing he’d probably need some time to learn how to take advantage of the situation and how to stay at least slightly hidden until he's strong enough.
Okay I’m guessing, that he didn’t find Ven’s heart until recently, seeing he didn't really become active until recently. That sounds interesting can’t wait to see it unfold in the story.
^__^
I guess you could say it is a mix of both, as the Anti-Form all in all is tied to the Drive Form-system and by extent the abuse of it is what triggers the appearance of Anti-Form. The activation of the Drive System when Anti-Form occurs establishes a link to Sora's Darkness, rather than to the powers he would borrow when turning into one of the other forms, so both the statements of Sora tapping into his Darkness and Anti-Sora's power seeping through are correct to a degree.
Exactly, before he could learn to take advantage of the situation he of course needed to learn how to form more complex lines of thought and to generally emote first. Zombie-Roxas in Days was also quite slow and "dumb" at first.
It just remains to pinpoint what "recently" means, lol, but like said I won't get ahead of the narrative.

Well theoretically it could be possible that Riku destroys this Replica in the time between his disappearance Chain of Memories and his appearance in Days. This could also serve as a way to get around that problem and explain how it got into Sora’s heart.


Well you sticking to the canon and working around it also helps a the quality of your Fan Fic in my opinion.
I guess that would make sense, seeing you’re just as blind in overly bright light as you’d be in darkness.

I hadn’t thought of that. Now that I consider that it’s all from her point of view it makes a lot of sense.
Ah, another good idea, this could indeed be molded into a whole interesting subplot, so the possibility of the menace being a Replica would have been also a valid one, lol.

Thanks. ^__^
Sticking closer to the canon may also help to give more credence to the characters I would say, as they are used in the environment they were created for, they can be easier connected to the canon characters we already know.
That's also why I do not really understand when people take the characters way too far out of context with AUs that get completely into different themes that have nothing to do with the characters. When you want to write a high-school story or some mystery P.I. novella you use either completely original characters for that or characters from a series/novel/movie who actually fit into the topic. For example setting KH characters into a high-school setting means they are not really the KH characters but just husks with the same name and appearance, often used to fuel some rather kinky fantasies rather than actually tell a compelling story.

Yep, and this is also another hint towards that Light can be as dangerous as Darkness is, depending on the intensity.

I actually use that procedure of a single POV more often especially with the main characters, although I do sometimes switch POV within a chapter like i.e. in the Ienzo & Xemnas vs Lightning & Hope fight when I switched around between Ienzo's POV and Xemnas' POV.

Sounds good.
Well Fira is a middle level Fire spell so it should still hold some oomph. Well isn't another reason why the Ice-Strom affective not also because she kind of caught Vanitas off guard.

I guess she does have the advantage in that regard though her possibilities to act seem to be very limited. Her opponent clearly out matches her at the moment, so as you said right now a direct assault isn’t really an option right now so she’ll have to be creative while she’s trying to stall for time and hope that back up comes soon.

I hope it will also turn out to be good and not just sound like it. ;)
It would probably hold some "oomph" if it would have been a normal enemy or maybe even a King Mook like Darkside, yet Anti-Sora is way more than that by now. That red aura surrounding him can also work as a shield.
That comes on the table as well of course, Anti-Sora was so concentrated on his banter with Vanitas (and in his arrogance not really expecting Xion to be a real threat, since he believed that he had scared and confused her enough so she wouldn't be able to focus for such a strong magical attack) that he was caught completely off guard.

Since things are generally somewhat dire right now for Sora's group (as Xehanort also mentioned to Ansem SoD if you remember), Xion is in the unique position that she cannot really improve things, but she can keep them from getting even worse if she plays the few cards she has correctly.
On a long-term view though, of course there will have to be outside intervention somehow.
 
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