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Mirby

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Feel free, if that's how you feel. Not my place to talk you out of it nor would I even venture a try at it. All I'm saying is that your post was rather ridiculous.

and if we're going by that definition, wouldn't that make every single piece of artwork presented to this mural plagiarism? even yours that you are removing?

every single piece of art is based off, derived from an existing source, namely these characters from KH1. therefore, it follows that creating anything, whether tracing over it, looking at it to study it, or even going by memory, is plagiarism by that definition. it is something based on an existing source, and it is being presented as something new.

everything for this project... scratch that, pretty much all fan art can fit under that incredibly wide umbrella that definition has. derived from existing source? check. presented as something new? check.

uh oh. plagiarism. better call the cops.
 

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presented as new or original.
the only thing presented as original is the illustration, the designs admittedly derived. hillboy can't take credit for anything other than the blotchy paint-over.

glad we cleared that up.
 

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Funny, I could've sworn there was, you know, a reply. Eh, no matter.

So the blotchy paint job is his submission. He's not claiming it to be anything other than that, and never has. So yes, cleared up.

EDIT: So that's Aladdin and Sally that need to be redone by others then?
 

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Tracing is defined as blatantly copying the composition and structure of a work with little or no alteration, with the intent of claiming the by-product as your own. You "went through the motions" of reproducing the image, but the composition is identical to the original, with the intent for it to be identical.

Tracing is art plagiarism. And if you want to argue that he edited it because of the paint blotches, that's still art paraphrasing, which is also art plagiarism.

Turn has every right to drop out of this if he feels there's a lack of originality and an insult upon the artistic community, especially considering it's legitimate.



Now I don't want to see this argument in this thread again. You can discuss it all you want on your own time.
 

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so that probably means half the submissions will probably need to be removed, since they fit that definition of plagiarism. huh.
 

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That's not my decision to make. I'm simply rationalizing why Turn wants to drop out of the project.

Once again, drop it.
 

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Gotcha. I was just pointing out something I felt needed to be pointed out. In jest, no less.

Now hmm... I wonder how all this will look as a finished product. I wonder if I should claim another character... hmm...
 

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I'm heading to Disney tomorrow, and haven't/won't have access to a proper computer for a few days still at best.

Though I hate to say it, Aurora is up for grabs~ Good luck with the project, everyone. :3 and it's probably for the best since my drawings are mediocre lol
 
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I think I claimed Dr. Finklestein, but there's no way I'm going to have to do him right now. But I really don't want to see him lazily traced...

I'm just saying, tracing was allowed not because of laziness, but for the sake of the less experienced artists and those who lack the confidence to do be able to create something more "original" so that they could contribute to a project that was created for everyone to have fun.
 

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that's really encouraging a bad practice though

and if they take that to another site, like deviantart, they can get banned for it because no one told them it was bad to trace
 

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STOP. Seriously. The mural is being released in two diddlying days. If anybody had complaints about this before (because this has been in the OP for almost this ENTIRE YEAR) then they should have been voiced.
 

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whyyyyy didn't i finish this over summer oh dear

I'm still working on Shock, and I'll try my darndest to get it done. I should be able to. Just... oh glob please don't hate me if i don't. :c
 

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So with only 2 days left and quite a few claims unspoken for, what exactly is going to happen? Are they just going to be absent from the final result?

I mean, I'd help if I could, but I wouldn't want to step on anyone's toes.
 

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I kept forgetting about mine but I'll have it up late tonight/early next morning. Are we doing this again for other KH games? I was a bit late to the party with this one buy next time I'll be more vigilant.
 

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Ahh don't stress you guys. Concerning the timeframe we have now, just try to do what you can. It doesn't necessarily have to be super amazing but as long as it shows the main ideas of that character.
 

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whyyyyy didn't i finish this over summer oh dear

I'm still working on Shock, and I'll try my darndest to get it done. I should be able to. Just... oh glob please don't hate me if i don't. :c

Awwww we won't hate you! After all, this project is just for fun!

So with only 2 days left and quite a few claims unspoken for, what exactly is going to happen? Are they just going to be absent from the final result?

I mean, I'd help if I could, but I wouldn't want to step on anyone's toes.

If you'd like to pick up any more characters, please feel free to do so! If we can't get them all up, well we can always add them on to the next one!

I kept forgetting about mine but I'll have it up late tonight/early next morning. Are we doing this again for other KH games? I was a bit late to the party with this one buy next time I'll be more vigilant.

Yes we are! It'll be some time later since we've got some other things planned and we don't want to overwhelm everyone with so many art projects.
 

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Ho, sheesh xD I'll get straight to Mushu tonight and should have it in by tomorrow or earlier (if by a few hours =P).
 

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Donald will be completed soon. If Sora's artist isn't going to be able to pull through, I will claim the "understudy" position. Though he won't be a vector, he'll be a straight up hand-drawn, color illustration. (Sign, you may have to work your finessed transparent rendering magic on it.)
 

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Donald will be completed soon. If Sora's artist isn't going to be able to pull through, I will claim the "understudy" position. Though he won't be a vector, he'll be a straight up hand-drawn, color illustration. (Sign, you may have to work your finessed transparent rendering magic on it.)

That's okay! I'll get through it in a jiffy. I think it's alright for you to take Sora since Rena is very busy, so I'm just waiting on a reply from her to make sure.
 
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