KH3D Livestreams, Comprehensive Impressions, and Playthroughs!

[rokudamia2]

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the scene in question.

 

[Oblivionite]

wait so...i thought this game takes place in their dreams, or while they are "asleep" wtf?

 

[rokudamia2]

wait so...i thought this game takes place in their dreams, or while they are "asleep" wtf?

Xehanort and co. interrupt the exam.

 

[*TwilightNight*]

Kairi with battle pose.

This cements it, people.

Spoiler Show

This is important information!! >:0

So Nobodies have hearts and those with the yellow eyes and pointy ears are the ones farther along in the process of Xehanortification? (totally using that word from now on.)

How is he even capable of this Xehanortification? The members didn't notice at all?

Man, if they get out of this somehow, they are going to be mighty pissed. We can use that for certain now cause they have Hearts :3. Still, that kind of brings their actions to a more immoral level. Not that they weren't before, but they had the whole "we don't feel" excuse. Guess not, guys.

Xehanort and co. interrupt the exam.

So they went into the dream world?

 

[loke13]

Kairi with battle pose.

This cements it, people.

IKR? Seriously the next game needs to have Kairi ASAP.

How is he even capable of this Xehanortification?

Well during a flashback we see Xehanort stabbing Braig with the Keyblade I imagine he left a piece of himself in each of their Hearts.

Jeez we're really heading into Harry Potter territory here.

 

[Mikeneko]

[FONT=&quot]Ugh, the subtitles are only half visible and people are talking over the dialogue. -.- I’ll give this a shot.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]“That’s right; we did not remain heartless. There are differences, but [something inside us was trying to give birth to a heart? Can’t understand the whole sentence.] A heart is something that buds and is nurtured. The experiments to create heartless involved controlling the spirit and making people abandon themselves. But even if someone is made to lose their heart in that way, there will always be a heart within the vessel that is their body. We too were divided into heart and body, Heartless and Nobody, but I knew that we had come to possess hearts once again.”[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]He also says that most of the Organization members were unable to fulfill their purpose—they lacked power, they lacked understanding, they plotted rebellion! But that too was ~all according to plan~![/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Braig says that Sora’s power comes from a connection to someone else’s heart, and he himself is not keyblade wielder material. But not to worry, the Organization will still use him as a vessel! Sora's all like, "I don't care if I'm not a real keyblade wielder! My power comes from my friends!" *cue cavalry*
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[Sephiroth0812]

Spoiler Show

This is important information!! >:0

So Nobodies have hearts and those with the yellow eyes and pointy ears are the ones farther along in the process of Xehanortification? (totally using that word from now on.) But what does Xehanort hope to get out of it?

So Yen Sid must have anticipate that Xehanort would try something like this probably caught onto it after Sora took out KH2.

How exactly did Xehanort lie? Granted Nobodies were always able to express emotion but shouldn't they be aware of this fact? Or was it some sorta of Psychological mind over matter BS?

And I guess this explains how Ienzo, Lea, and Isa aged.

"Xehanortification", yep, that term sounds good.
What does Xehanort hope to get out of it? Hmm...either an army of puppets at his command (he loves enslaving people to his will apparently) or/and having multiple "insurance policies" so he can't be fully vanquished. It's like Voldemort on a grander scale.

If I understand this correctly, Xehanort practically gave "birth" to new living beings just to control them, or what?

I could imagine that the part of "Xehanort" that was in them suppressed their new "hearts" somehow or impeded their functionality, so that it was really like they didn't have emotions.
With Roxas it didn't really work either a) because he never had a piece of Xehanort or b) because Ven's heart was also there, countering the Xehanort piece.
Axel suddenly gaining more emotion when spending time with Roxas (and Sora) could then be attributed to Sora's and Roxas's influence on Axel slowly subverting Xehanort's influence.

Yep, explains the age discrepancy.
Yet, what isn't explained is how Lea, Ienzo and Aeleus apparently manage to shake off Xehanort's influence. OK, Lea could be explained by his connections to Sora, Roxas and Ven, but the other two?

There is still one or more pieces missing in the puzzle me thinks.

Kairi with battle pose.

This cements it, people.

How is he even capable of this Xehanortification? The members didn't notice at all?

Man, if they get out of this somehow, they are going to be mighty pissed. We can use that for certain now cause they have Hearts :3. Still, that kind of brings their actions to a more immoral level. Not that they weren't before, but they had the whole "we don't feel" excuse. Guess not, guys.

So they went into the dream world?

If they didn't notice they actually had hearts it's also completely reasonable they didn't notice the "Xehanortification."
That would however also pointly explain why Xemnas was totally unconcerned with Marluxia's and also Saix's planned betrayal. He was already on the winning side from the very start.
It's also somewhat scary, as Nomura already spoke ominously of the "true goals" of the Organisation way back in the Director's Secret Report XIII right after KH 2.

We don't know if their hearts were completely functionable and therefore it may still hold true that "normal" nobodies couldn't feel.

Well during a flashback we see Xehanort stabbing Braig with the Keyblade I imagine he left a piece of himself in each of their Hearts.

Jeez we're really heading into Harry Potter territory here.

Yep, Xehanort is a mass possessor. He just loves to control people and make them feel miserable, what a prick.

 

[sora4sky]

IKR? Seriously the next game needs to have Kairi ASAP.



Well during a flashback we see Xehanort stabbing Braig with the Keyblade I imagine he left a piece of himself in each of their Hearts.

Jeez we're really heading into Harry Potter territory here.

Agreed about Kairi. Omg Nomura-san that was mind-blowing. He's face right about now ---->

Also i think loke we are beyond Harry Potter territory. Right about now Voldemort is cursing with all his got.

Can't wait to see full translations of the cutscenes. It's gonna be heart-breaking. T_T

Let's not include that Secret ending hasn't appeared yet and final cutscenes.

 

[Sephiroth0812]

Omg Nomura-san that was mind-blowing. He's face right about now ---->

Also i think loke we are beyond Harry Potter territory. Right about now Voldemort is cursing with all his got.

Can't wait to see full translations of the cutscenes. It's gonna be heart-breaking. T_T

Let's not include that Secret ending hasn't appeared yet and final cutscenes.

Indeed, lol, Voldemort is nothing against Xehanort, that guy goes way beyond him. Does he have any empathy for life at all? He apparently clearly thinks everyone only exists to serve him and be his slave, lol.

What shocks me more on a personal note is that I apparently think to some degree alike with Nomura, as I thought of something similar with "new" hearts when planning my own story, although only for special cases where several hearts are involved. OMYGOSH.

 

[iLeen]

[FONT=&quot]Ugh, the subtitles are only half visible and people are talking over the dialogue. -.- I’ll give this a shot.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]“That’s right; we did not remain heartless. There are differences, but [something inside us was trying to give birth to a heart? Can’t understand the whole sentence.] A heart is something that buds and is nurtured. The experiments to create heartless involved controlling the spirit and making people abandon themselves. But even if someone is made to lose their heart in that way, there will always be a heart within the vessel that is their body. We too were divided into heart and body, Heartless and Nobody, but I knew that we had come to possess hearts once again.”[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]He also says that most of the Organization members were unable to fulfill their purpose—they lacked power, they lacked understanding, they plotted rebellion! But that too was ~all according to plan~![/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Braig says that Sora’s power comes from a connection to someone else’s heart, and he himself is not keyblade wielder material. But not to worry, the Organization will still use him as a vessel! Sora's all like, "I don't care if I'm not a real keyblade wielder! My power comes from my friends!" *cue cavalry*
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Thanks so much for the translation!

Now I'm just wondering how Sora helped in their plans?

 

[MasterZeR0]

I bet the "hearts" the members have are just parts of Xehanort's heart.

 

[loke13]

I still wonder what he plans to use Organization Xehanort for. It seems he planned this since before KH1 I can't imagine he's just using them for canon fodder against Sora and co. and it looks like he's still after Ven's Heart.

I'm guessing his talk with Terra in Blank Points happens after he attacked Braig and the scientist the dialogue seems to match up.

Also who the heck is that Brown Robed Figure that was seen talking with YMX at DI? Gah! Curse Nomura for bringing back a character from KH1 and giving him a new twist.

 

[rokudamia2]

Crimmyice

Guys on Symphony of Sorcery

He's pretty good at the game.

 

[*TwilightNight*]

I guess this makes Organization XIII bigger than what anyone thought possible, lol.

IKR? Seriously the next game needs to have Kairi ASAP.

Still needs to be trained, though. I really hope Aqua does it.

Well during a flashback we see Xehanort stabbing Braig with the Keyblade I imagine he left a piece of himself in each of their Hearts.

Oh, yeah, he stabbed all the members, right? That's something I heard before, I'm not sure how accurate it was. He's the reason why they became Nobodies? Not only the core 6, and Lea/Isa, but the rest?

Can anyone confirm? D:

If they didn't notice they actually had hearts it's also completely reasonable they didn't notice the "Xehanortification."
That would however also pointly explain why Xemnas was totally unconcerned with Marluxia's and also Saix's planned betrayal. He was already on the winning side from the very start.
It's also somewhat scary, as Nomura already spoke ominously of the "true goals" of the Organisation way back in the Director's Secret Report XIII right after KH 2.

We don't know if their hearts were completely functionable and therefore it may still hold true that "normal" nobodies couldn't feel.

Winning by "they're going to be my tools eventually" side. This also thankfully explains why he didn't care about what went on when he was Xemnas. In terms of his plans falling apart.

Or so we thought.

Trololol.

Still, I think most of them noticed they felt. I recall Demyx's quip in KH2. They perhaps ignored it because to them, they weren't supposed to have emotions, and they were simply going by what they remember. They weren't "real", and that's what they've been fed. We're going to have to wait to understand the whole "new Hearts" better.

Can't believe Xehanort. He's taking over the bodies of people unbeknownst to them, turning them into him slowly, robbing their freedom and will, and prepping them to be his puppets. All of them.

It's official that no one in this game catches a break.

Does this mean that they can wield Keyblades? I was joking before, but now I'm taking it seriously. If they truly do have a "piece" of him (I'm guessing it can be the same as Ven's Heart inside of Sora), or he somehow gave them the Rite of Passage, then the likelihood has increased. Especially since his intent is to ultimately have them all be Xehanorts.

 

[Sephiroth0812]

I still wonder what he plans to use Organization Xehanort for. It seems he planned this since before KH1 I can't imagine he's just using them for canon fodder against Sora and co. and it looks like he's still after Ven's Heart.

I'm guessing his talk with Terra in Blank Points happens after he attacked Braig and the scientist the dialogue seems to match up.

Also who the heck is that Brown Robed Figure that was seen talking with YMX at DI? Gah! Curse Nomura for bringing back a character from KH1 and giving him a new twist.

Not just as cannon fodder, but also to ensure his constant survival. I can imagine that these Xehanorganisation is indestructible due to each one keeping the others alive. In order to truly defeat Xehanort, all 13 need to be defeated at the exact same time.
It certainly looks like Xehanort is still after Ventus, which would make sense due to the X-blade stuff.
From what Xemnas explained apparently hearts can "give birth/produce" other hearts which start out as "buds" and need to be nutured to grow into fully functionable hearts.
This goes in accordance to what Xehanort noted in his reports about Ven's and Vanitas' hearts needing to be "raised" and with Nomura's words in the BBS Ultimania about that when Ventus came first to Land of Departure his heart "wasn't fully formed".
So that gives us Ven's and Vanitas's hearts grown into two seperate hearts which needed to intersect to forge the X-blade.
I would assume that Vanitas' heart still exists and therefore Ven's heart is still pure light => Xehanort wants it again to gain his precious super-weapon.

(Non-canon joke: Since Xehanort is a pedo and Ventus was his first boytoy maybe he wants some more nostalgia back, rofl.)

Could be certainly that way. If anything it certainly shows that Xehanort planned many steps ahead from the very beginning, just like Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious.

That's probably the true "Xehanort", the guy we will see at the very end as Nomura suggested in one of the latest interviews.

 

[iLeen]

Oh, yeah, he stabbed all the members, right? That's something I heard before, I'm not sure how accurate it was. He's the reason why they became Nobodies? Not only the core 6, and Lea/Isa, but the rest?

Can anyone confirm? D:

I always thought Xemnas randomly found and picked up the other Organization nobodies after #8, since Xigbar or someone (or should I say no one...ha...haha, horrible pun) was in charge of finding/recruiting more members.

 

[DiveHearts]

DChurch just finished Sora's Story!!!

1. Turns out Nobody's have hearts. From rough translations they have hearts because Xehanort planted apart of him in each of them so they will eventually all become a new "Xehanort". This was his plan from the beginning.

2. Roxas or Ven gave Sora all of his memories and Sora remembered meeing Aqua when he was four.

3. Sora becomes incapacitated by darkness and Riku has to go and save him. Riku's final boss is Sora in Ven's Armour. Im not sure what happens straight after the fight, but when they wake up Riku is the only one to become a Keyblade Master. Sora then leaves on a journey alone.

4. Lea somehow isnt affected by the Xehanortcation and becomes a good guy. He also gets a keyblade.

 

[Amazing]

I've been absent quite a bit. Someone mind listing the plot related spoilers for me please?

 

[loke13]

That's probably the true "Xehanort", the guy we will see at the very end as Nomura suggested in one of the latest interviews.

*sigh* if that's true than Nomura just loves coming up with new forms of Xehanort seriously has there ever been an a villain with more incarnations than him?

Also was there any talk of the MF? Was he is KH3D at all?

 

[leonidus]

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

If the Nobodies already had hearts and Xemnas' real goal wasn't to become "complete"... Then, what's with the KH2 artificial Kingdom Hearts? What's the point of that? 0_o
They are already complete, but I guess "brainwashed" to believe otherwise.