well i dont think ansem made the dusks what he probubly made was his shadow but i think that the organzation made the dusks out of people who lost memories like heartless people without hearts turn into heartless and people without memories turn into nobodies.and what does your poll have anything to do with you topic?
Is silver cretures in Kh2 linked to Ansem report???
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Also, the '13 point chart' shown in Deep Dive says:
http://www.kingdomhearts2.net/13points.jpg - the 13 point chart
http://www.kingdomhearts2.net/13points.jpg - the 13 point chart
Hey, do i look like i know all Ansem's report's off by heart? and besides, i've not got a chance to READ AR 13 until now. Even if all i've said is a load of ass, then what makes you think that machine isn't used again if it was a success the first time?
Salfiseww, i think you should take back that comment about reading if you can't even spell my name right.
kh2-Sora (don't worry, i'm not going to shout at you) i couldn't think of anything related to my topic ^^; unless it was about how wrong i am, but thanks for asking.
Salfiseww, i think you should take back that comment about reading if you can't even spell my name right.
kh2-Sora (don't worry, i'm not going to shout at you) i couldn't think of anything related to my topic ^^; unless it was about how wrong i am, but thanks for asking.
You hadn't even got a chance to read the other reports? *sigh*
http://www.kingdomhearts2.net/khdatabase/ - for all KH related infomation
http://www.kingdomhearts2.net/info/ansemreport/index.shtml - for the Ansem Reports
*sigh again*
http://www.kingdomhearts2.net/khdatabase/ - for all KH related infomation
http://www.kingdomhearts2.net/info/ansemreport/index.shtml - for the Ansem Reports
*sigh again*
Stop making me feel inferior, your very close to getting an e-mail slap...but thank you for the sites...
It's ok. forgiven.
Hey I just realised your within 15 feet of my current location...can you see me waving??
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Maybe the ones that have the heartless symbol are artificials so that Ansem will no to prove his theory of colning a heartless. Of course when your cloning something you have to know what is origanal and the clone. Then probobly he had to make sure his cloning session was in perfect order. So he had to study the heartless to see if both of the heartless clone and origainal are well the same. Then probobly the heartless got too smart for him and started to attack Hollow Bastion. Then It came to ruins. After Sora killed Ansem. Diz in the orginization might be the dark side of Ansem. When Ansem was studying the heartless that was the light side of him. After he stole Riku's heart and came back to life he was in twilight. Maybe after Sora killed him, Diz is Ansem. But the dark form. Diz might be still studying the heartless and adding armour on to them. Silver armour. Which explains the silver heartless.
i think that the Org. used technology from Ansems expiriments and reports to creat the white creatures (Nobody) thay are not heartless so maybe they are a different part of someone whos body or soul was taken. maybe when the peoples hearts were taken when the heartless took the worlds their souls went to Kingdom hearts and the Org. used Ansem or Diz's knowledge and created the nobodys. im just rambling and probably dont make sense but its hard to put it in words
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originally from UnknownSora21
could'nt have said it better.
crossed heart said:
*Sigh* Did you read the Ansem Reports/play the game? The part about DiZ I'm not going to elaborate on, since I haven't played CoM yet, but as for the first part regarding Ansem...
http://www.kingdomhearts2.net/info/ansemreport/index.shtml
Please, just read the Reports. It would take too much of my time to explain to you.
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I read it S-king but don't fully understand it.
In short:
AR1: He tells you he is the ruler of his world, and seeks knowledge of the Darkness that plagues his world.
AR2: He experiments with the 'Darkness' in people's hearts, which then begin to collapse. Later, he finds the Haertless underneath the castle.
AR3: He ponders there existence, and names them [Heartless].
AR4: He comes up with an hypothesis: the Heartless take hearts, though he cannot prove
it. He then thinks they could be the Darkness in people's hearts.
AR5: He follows a Heartless which leads him to the Kayhole for Hollow Bastion. Ansem opens the door, causing the barrier between the worlds to collapse.
AR6: He hypothesizes that the door he opened leaded to the heart of his world, but he doesn't know what the Heartless want with it yet.
AR7: He studies the material from the meteor showers, and questions the existence of other worlds.
AR8: He constructs the machine that artificial creates Heartless, but he marks them with a symbol: they need to be distinct from the natural Heartless for his experiment.
AR9: King Mickey (supposedly) comes to Hollow Bastion, and talks to Ansem. Ansem discovers, that the meteors are 'gummi blocks', and the legend of the Keyblade.
AR10: He discovers that the Heartless desire the heart of the worlds. Ansme them begins a quest to find the Keyblade wielder, so he decides to cast off his body.
AR11: Summary of AR9. The Keyblade wielder locks the hearts of worlds, meaning they cannot be accessed by the Heartless. He chooses to send Kairi (a potential Princess of Heart) off to 'the ocean of other worlds', in hopes of finding the Keyblade wielder.
AR12: Ansem is now a mere heart, but he is not a Heartless. He discovers that in order to go over to 'the dark side', you must venture beyond the door of Kingdom Hearts.
AR13: Wonders where they body gos, after the heart has left it. It is niether Darkness nor Light, and 'in-between existence': Twilight. A mere shell, who is neither Darkness nor Light. Apparantly, since we exist here, they can't really be termed as 'existent'. So they are the 'Non-Existent Ones' (NEO)
Does that make sense??
AR1: He tells you he is the ruler of his world, and seeks knowledge of the Darkness that plagues his world.
AR2: He experiments with the 'Darkness' in people's hearts, which then begin to collapse. Later, he finds the Haertless underneath the castle.
AR3: He ponders there existence, and names them [Heartless].
AR4: He comes up with an hypothesis: the Heartless take hearts, though he cannot prove
it. He then thinks they could be the Darkness in people's hearts.
AR5: He follows a Heartless which leads him to the Kayhole for Hollow Bastion. Ansem opens the door, causing the barrier between the worlds to collapse.
AR6: He hypothesizes that the door he opened leaded to the heart of his world, but he doesn't know what the Heartless want with it yet.
AR7: He studies the material from the meteor showers, and questions the existence of other worlds.
AR8: He constructs the machine that artificial creates Heartless, but he marks them with a symbol: they need to be distinct from the natural Heartless for his experiment.
AR9: King Mickey (supposedly) comes to Hollow Bastion, and talks to Ansem. Ansem discovers, that the meteors are 'gummi blocks', and the legend of the Keyblade.
AR10: He discovers that the Heartless desire the heart of the worlds. Ansme them begins a quest to find the Keyblade wielder, so he decides to cast off his body.
AR11: Summary of AR9. The Keyblade wielder locks the hearts of worlds, meaning they cannot be accessed by the Heartless. He chooses to send Kairi (a potential Princess of Heart) off to 'the ocean of other worlds', in hopes of finding the Keyblade wielder.
AR12: Ansem is now a mere heart, but he is not a Heartless. He discovers that in order to go over to 'the dark side', you must venture beyond the door of Kingdom Hearts.
AR13: Wonders where they body gos, after the heart has left it. It is niether Darkness nor Light, and 'in-between existence': Twilight. A mere shell, who is neither Darkness nor Light. Apparantly, since we exist here, they can't really be termed as 'existent'. So they are the 'Non-Existent Ones' (NEO)
Does that make sense??
Is that quote true or just from your head? I mean, looking at it with relation to our world (which is pretty pointless in doing i know...) could the present world be the in-between? just because heaven here is the world of light and hell the world of dark to us, which is stupid if that is put into the game as not only is the universe there totally different from our, but that you play in hell where you find Auron (*screams because Auron was mentioned*) ^^;
Crossed heart your soooo lucky that you have Riku *squeels* in your siggy!!! I envy you so much! All you have to do is write 10 letters and stare at you siggy all day! *drools*.....Wahahaha! i want Riku back!!!!!!! WAAAA!!!....
Crossed heart your soooo lucky that you have Riku *squeels* in your siggy!!! I envy you so much! All you have to do is write 10 letters and stare at you siggy all day! *drools*.....Wahahaha! i want Riku back!!!!!!! WAAAA!!!....
NEO...NEO.....they don't has a symbol on them, they're making me confused again o.0
S King said:If you mean the NEO shadows
Well, they are natural heartless. They were dubbed 'NEO' shadows, way back when, when we were making theories on 'NEO'. Or something like that.
thats a good point.. but its probably just coincidence. but they were called NEO shadows by the game itself, even when they appeared in COM.
Somthing i have been pondering is that with the white heartless(i cant recall the name they were given, so thats its for now) is that they could be the shell. If a person's heart gets taken.. the heartless have a leftover shell that just gets thrown away. so what i was thinking is that they are the other shells that couldnt survive, because somehow, some did survive becoming a shell. By the sounds of it, every Org. member is a shell themselves. How they survived is a question in itself, but not one that we know the answer to.
What happened to Sora is competly different. What happened to him only happened one time before it sounds like. with the Org(or most of it) those who were cast into darkness somehow survived without hearts(so the heartless would in turn probably leave them alone) but what happened to Sora is extrodinary, even by the Organizations standards. He lost his heart, but completly restored himself. Only one other has done that... and i really dont think its Ansem. Ansem survived darkness.. but he didnt get his body back like Sora did. He manipulated Riku's body to get the desired look. That doesnt really count.
That being said.. its just my opinion.. i could be wrong.
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