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I wonder why DS's face hasn't been reveiled yet unlike the others...



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Why not? I thought it was good.

I didn't.

Hearts caused the explosion
explosion =/= hearts

I see that this discussion will get us nowhere. Apparently you'll never get the message...

Didn't answer my qeust-chun.

Wednesday...I probably won't be able to log on tommorow.

Only if what you say is fact.

Probably it is.

If Nomu was not lazy, KH wouldn't of had Disney in it.

False. It had nothing to do with his laziness, and KH was handed to Nomura, he's not the one who had the idea for the team-up.

Besides, usually in games that have extra battles after the credits, also lets you continue the game after you beat it. KH does not let you continue after the end, it makes you start over.

Still not proof.


Shit, this whole discussion is starting to remind me of Schrödinger's cat.
OUCH. MY MIND. x_____x

It's starting to remind me why I swore I'd never join a forum again.

No one is ever beat-up looking gameplay wise.

True, but the point still stands. Nomura would not forget that detail...

Was Axel's coat torn and shredded even though he got raped by Saix?

And when did this happen?

Did Riku's clothes look messed up after the Zebra Xemnas fight?

Why should they?

Also, I know this is weak but, High Potion? :'O

Yeah, it's weak.

If it's before Xem, theres still the "travel back in time" thing or the "ghost" thing.

But if not either, then yea.

Ghost, yes, maybe. Time travel, not as much.

Didn't answer my qeust-chun.

What was the question again?

Still Didn't answer my qeust-chun.

See above.

Only if "KH's Power" knocked MX's heart out of Xehanort. But a small 13% of me will go for the de-aging bit.

Alright.

Broken record much? Didn't answer my qeust-chun.

See above.

The other members give him help? I kinda doubt it. The only ones who I think didn't really have a mission was Saix and Luxord.
Do you really think Saix would help Axel? In a non-violent way? XD
As for Luxord, even though he's Nomu's fav, he practically doesn't exist. D:

Axel being computer smart? ( Axel being smart? XD ) Don't think he's the type with enough patients especially in the case of Rox, and has never shown signs to be good with anything electric (Larxene included) but hey. It could be. *shrugs*

Only ones I think could be computer smart are the first 6, who I think, weren't worried about Rox. Hell I don't think any of them really cared about Rox anymore. Top priority during KH2 was getting KH done, and they already were using Sora for collecting hearts, no?

Meh, the possibility still stands. Therefore, not plot hole.

Emblem heartless produce emblem nobodies. That was easy. o.o

This cannot be true, as all nobodies have the emblem aside the Org, and out of all those, at least one must have been created by a Pureblood heartless.

Which we don't know is true or not.

But if it was really a plot hole, then there would be no explanation.

When the game says more than one thing about the same thing and doesn't explain, I see it as a hole.

Well, I see a plot hole as something in a game that is not explained, and does not have a logical answer. Obviously we need to reach a consensus on what one is then...

Your mom. I ain't lookin back.

Neither am I.

Doesn't change that there are still holes.

Does it mean that your theory is allowed to create even more holes?

Fine. I'll let you keep your ways.

But I'm not keeping them.

Not calling you one. Homophobes are scared of TEH GHEY and wants them ded and gone. Srsly, theres this chick on DA who doesn't like homosexuality and believes it's a sin, but isn't a homophobe, and has bi friends.

...uhh....yea...I kinda got into a discussion with her and....che'yeaaaa....
I hope I didn't drive her into depression. >>;;; Note to self: Don't talk about religion around 15yr olds who are obsessed with the church. >___>;;;

This reminds me why I am no longer a Mormon.

Your other theories besides these ones.

Ah.

I'm hoping for a GAINAX-like ending. But I don't think Nomu is that cool.

W E L C O M E H O M E S O R A

....Dude...that ending would be f*cking awesome. But if they did it, I'd bitch slap Nomura for ripping off such a great animu. D<

But...Sora makes a good Nono...*smacks self* NO! Thats KH1 and fandom Sora dammit. DX

If anything, it's gonna have a shitty ending with Sora beating the bad guy WITH TEH POWURZ OF FRIENDSHIPZ and then going home and marrying Kairi. Even though I can come up with much better endings and plot lines and such, this Disney shit-fest is probably gonna happen.
I swear, if it weren't for flashy lights, faggotry pretty boys, and Square, I'd seriously wouldn't touch KH.

You watch way too much anime. In fact, I wonder why you even put up with Disney anyway, since you seem to hate it so much.

Half of that was an insult :'D
The meaner I am to you, the more of a friend I am to you.
But I will never save your life without profit.

Ditto...


Both of you. Die in a fire please. D:

Only if you jump in first. Also, you're one to talk. A 19 year old yaoi fangirl who probably spends half of her free time creating huge theories for a series of videogames which she claims have little that attracts her...

I'd say you're not too different from us, =P.

Ew. Goddamn abolitionist. D<

WTF?

1%? Sounds like 100% to me!

...

...I'm going back to /a/...


Not commenting on this...

Kings usually weild swords and septers or some long stick/blade like weapon. You know. Cuz they got the biggest cock n all. :/

Xemnas had that.

Kings do not work! Tis blasphemy I tells ye! Sends other people to do his shit.

Sounds like an accurate description of Xemnas, MX, and XH to me...

Unless, he is an awesome king like Leon-nai-tits, (You know. Sparta guy in the undies. ) and joins in the battle along with his men because of honor, pride, and all that good crap that gets you killed.

Yeah. It was an epic death though.

Also, I can't see an axe in his keyblade. :/ A double bladed sword like Kadaj, but not really an axe. A double-bladed scyth with a handle if anything. ( Bephomet? scyth? Sinister colors? THEMS THE DEVILS I TELLS YA. BIBLE FIGHT! *chunks bible at you*)

Well, this does not surprise me...I can see the axe. No, seriously I can.
 
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I didn't.
Sure, but why didn't it work?


I see that this discussion will get us nowhere. Apparently you'll never get the message...
Afraid not. I don't think I'll be able to see explosion = hearts. :/


Wednesday...I probably won't be able to log on tommorow.
fine, i'll let you get away for now.

Probably it is.
Probably it isn't.

You should of seen that comming.

False. It had nothing to do with his laziness, and KH was handed to Nomura, he's not the one who had the idea for the team-up.
And where is this info?


Still not proof.
neither is yours. Just possibility.

It's starting to remind me why I swore I'd never join a forum again.
Pssh, I'm enjoying myself. I just related dimensional theory to a video game.
True, but the point still stands. Nomura would not forget that detail...
I don't think he forgot it, more like just didn't put it in. Like with the rest of the game characters. We've never seen wear and tear on any other the charas in KH gameplay.

And when did this happen?
Remember when Axel was all half dead and he helps you fight? Yea, that was Saix who put him in that position.
I think you might of taken my yaoi-ness a little too seriously.
Rape = Got his ass beat and woman stolen.

Why should they?
Because Xemnas also practically raped him. I mean, that kid should be bleeding and have a few broken bones.

Yeah, it's weak.
It is but then how would you explain Riku quick healing? Just how much time we're he and Sora on that dark beach?

Short time: Poitions but then, why can't Terra use poitions?
Long time: heals over time, but I wonder HOW long? It would take at least a few days to weeks to heal brusises or broken bones

I smell another hole....

Ghost, yes, maybe. Time travel, not as much.
Even though we do it in the same world and same room?


What was the question again?
No way in hell am I going all the way back, so I'll let you get away with not answering it. Same for the others.


Meh, the possibility still stands. Therefore, not plot hole.
All plotholes have possibilities.


This cannot be true, as all nobodies have the emblem aside the Org, and out of all those, at least one must have been created by a Pureblood heartless.
I seem to recall that in KH, nobodies we're never even heard of. Also in KH1, we are told that created heartless have emblems on them. Then we see nobodies with emblems on them. Wouldn't the "logical" assumption be that they are created as well?

Also now, when you answer with just "no" or something along those lines with no explanation, I'll see it as "fine", and assume you can't come up with anything else and move on.

But if it was really a plot hole, then there would be no explanation.
There is none, we had to make one up our selves.
It's like this:
dpfl9c

If you asked someone what this was, they would most likely say "a box".
But it clearly isn't a box. It's four lines. The way the lines are arranged, makes it appear to be a box, but it is still not a box.

Plot holes are the gaps inbetween the lines. They are not connected, but we still see a box that isn't there. I geuss I kind of understand why pw3ned didn't trust the interviews.

The blue lines represent parts or points in the game. Nomura, had to connect those lines through interviews. But then again, Nomu can always re-agrange those lines, and make it appear as another shape. But he can't really mess with the blue lines since they are part of the game, therefore, cannot be changed. Until the lines are connected in the game, it is still not a box...

I hope you understand this....

Well, I see a plot hole as something in a game that is not explained, and does not have a logical answer. Obviously we need to reach a consensus on what one is then...
Without the interviews, "another report" and articals on KH thats not in-game, do you really think people would of figured out this stuff on thier own? KH has a bunch of holes, and not everyone reads or even knows of the extra info. Why did people interview Nomura and ask all those questions? Because of the holes in the game.


Does it mean that your theory is allowed to create even more holes?

Please tell me what holes it would cause. I bet you have been waiting for this since you've been talking about it for so long.
Twist: It can't have anything to do with Terra's battle. Why? Because it's still a "if" factor. Tell me what factual holes would be caused if my theory was correct.

But I'm not keeping them.
fine by me.

This reminds me why I am no longer a Mormon.
I never understood that branch of religion, what exactly is it? I just know they got up to people's houses and try to convert everyone.
Or is that Jenova's witnesses?


...so....cough em up.


You watch way too much anime. In fact, I wonder why you even put up with Disney anyway, since you seem to hate it so much.
Don't hate Disney, just really dislike the current company itself, and Disney holding back what KH can be capable of.
Why I put up with it in KH? Riku, Terra, and Axel, and some of the best fanfics, fanart, and very rare doujin. Basically, the fanbase is whats keeping me going.(Ew, what?) Well, the good part of it anyway. Also, I love action/comedy/romance.
From a yaoi fangirl's point of view, KH is a really REALLY romantically tragic game. Maybe thats why I like it so much...


Only if you jump in first.
Ha, no way, I got other crap to to live for besides KH.
Lets just say if Nomura died suddenly, and KH stopped, I wouldn't cry over it. In fact, I'd prolly continue it myself through doujinshi.

Also, you're one to talk. A 19 year old yaoi fangirl who probably spends half of her free time creating huge theories for a series of videogames which she claims have little that attracts her...
Actually, I've spent like whut, a couple days on these theories ( actually, if you add up all the hours I've spent each day messing with the theories, it'd would prolly be around 8hrs. :p). Most of my free time is taken up by drawing, my original stories, reading ED, world news, phsycology, mythology, science, medical, animal, botony, doujinshi, porn, manga, novels, cooking books/articles, kicking my guy friend's asses(we physically fight for fun), browsing the chan boards and arguing there (which is way more fun than here), watching animu and games far superior to KH, ( I love KH, but dude, theres a whole lot of way better shit out there ) and going random places with my friends and being a gurl for five minutes.
"But then why are you even here if those places are SO much better?"
Because, 70% of everyone there hates KH because of the faggotry, disney, and ff mainly. ( unless your on the cute males or yaoi boards, but even there they get sick of it ) Srsly, start a KH thread there and receive bitching lulz. As for where I live, "LOL U PLAY DIZNEY GAEMS? " and only me and a few others talk about it.

So, I retreat here. It's called expanding your horizons. Or something like that.

Whatever I'm into, I put alot of thought into it, regardless of how much I'm into it. If theres room for thinking, I'm there. If something isn't explained, I think of possible explanations. Give me any object or idea, I'll make a story.

tl;dr I made simple theories, people ask for proof, I give it. Not my fault that it turns out to be super long.
I'd say you're not too different from us, =P.
Ehh...not my religion, and I enjoy other things better.

I'm black. You said you liked me. Negro luver. D<


Not commenting on this...
If you understood it, I'd have a lil more respect for you. D:

Xemnas had that.
Omni was comparing MX. I know Xemmy has it, which adds to my "what if the knights we're royalty" idea, and Terra is a prince or king.

Sounds like an accurate description of Xemnas, MX, and XH to me...
Yet Omni says he has an axe which from what I know does not equal king.


Yeah. It was an epic death though.
It was alright, Ki-
....shit. Spoilers. >>;
Lets just say I've seen more epic deaths...;_ ;

Well, this does not surprise me...I can see the axe. No, seriously I can.
Show me dis axe.
 

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Q:why DS's face hasn't been reveiled yet unlike the others...
what the heck are you guys talking about? stick with the thread
 

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I take KH pretty seriously too, but it's just a game. No need for this.

Just a game? Maybe to you.


Do I honestly need to comment on this?

Nope, not if you don't want too.



Yes. Terra looks like Xemnas. He's comparing their looks, not their armor. At least if there's armor comparison, I didn't pick up on it.

/SIGH. And to Omni, yes this is a quote FROM THE INTERVIEWER not from nomura, however i do think the person doing this interview is fairly educated in things KH so take it for what you will. Furthermore, do the 3 armored figures that appear there and the similar looking armored figure in the Last Battle have some relation to Xemnas?

Why would he say 3 armored figures if he was just talking about terra and xehanort. -_-. He's Clearly making a comparison between ALL THREE CHARACTERS ARMOR, and the ARMOR FROM THE FINAL FIGHT ... Xemnas's. I cannot make this any more clear for you =/



He looks a little older to me, personally.

OK



So? Doesn't seem that unfounded or elaborate to me. See, we don't know how big that world is, or what else is in it.

Point is is more far fetched than my theory, given the translated NAME of Terra it is MORE likly he is a ghost/whatever than... he's been wandering desert whatever. And OMNI i don't think its likly that we bust in on Terra JUST as he happen to be paying his respects. Basiclly your saying its a coincidence and i highly doubt that. Also the whole scene has the feeling that whatever THAT is, it's been waiting there for a while, and is going to CONTINUE DOING SO after the fight. I DON"T THINK in Nomura's grand scheme for Terra BBS the game is gonna end with terra going OK... well Ven and Aqua = DEAD so i'm just gonna go kneel down in the desert.... if someone finds me i'll fight em...then i'm gonna keep kneeling. forever. YEAH, right. talk about your 1% possible.


Both could be possible. You don't know if it's really him, neither do I. Also, read Omni's post on the sarcasm issue.

Again, site me a source of ONE OTHER TIME Xemnas uses sarcasm. Till then, yeahNO.


I meant in KHFM. The first Final Mix. For the first KH. Not KH2.

Oh cool. My bad there.



No, not really. I'm just blunt. You're being, well, a little rude, really. Did I ever go and insult VAT? No. Do I refuse to accept the Terra=Xehanort theory because In just don't like it? No. I think there are as many things that suggest it could be false as there are that it is true.

Fine line between Blunt a Rude. I could say the same but again, i'm admitting to rude where as you are still passing yours off as being "blunt." I'm not going to insult you anymore but instead of giving excuses like "This is just how I get about KH".... Just don't do it.



I'd give them to you now, but I'm rather tired, and I have school tommorow. Also, am I judging you based on this first impression? No. I'm sure you're fairly decent otherwise, even if you seem a little rude here. First impressions are not really everything, and I'm really not as bad as you probably think I am.

No, i don't think your that bad actually. Just your passing off your theory as fact think is kinda annoying.



I'm kind overall, but when it comes to KH, it gets a little different. I do realize I might be close-minded about certain subjects, and perhaps even considerably rude, but does that give you right to think you speak for the whole forum? No.

Yeah I shouldn't pretend to speak for the whole forum but, someone had to say something o_O


Um, while I do believe those who would agree with you do exist, I suggest if you plan to criticize me, that you speak for yourself, as I stated above.

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Besides MX's obvious age, he weilds an axe shaped keyblade in BBS... Now, an axe can represent a high status level... Also, the new translations of MX are very dignified... He speaks as if he held a high class... To say MX was not well mannered would be a complete and total lie... He walked slow, held his arms behind his back, left most of the attacking to the DS, ect...

Show me a screenshot of this axe because, i don't see it. Also a keyblade is a keyblade regardless of what it looks like, I think its much higher honor to wield a keyblade than is to wield an AXE. Axe's a crude, blunt, and barbaric. So even if it IS said axe you could easily argue the opposite that an axe indicates lesser status. This point is a waste of time talking about.


When Riku first met Xehanort's heartless, he was fresh with rage for loosing the fight with Sora... Riku accepted Xehanort's offer... Not until after Xehanort gains complete form, does Riku's hatred toward him build...

Yeah, he hated him once he had a history with him. It's clear Terra has a history with MX. And if your argueing Terra doesn't hate MX It seems like in Birth By Sleep that he does. Also Hatred is MOST ASSURADLY a path on the way to darkness. don't make me quote star wars.



Possible...? Yes... But, the possibility would be less than 1%...

I don't see how the fact that his name is Lingering Sentiment constitues less and 1%. See also the 10 or reasons I posted above. The lowest i could go on this is even, saying there's a 50/50 chance he's real/ghost. And that's being generous on my part.


(For some reason, I remember stuff after I log off) Just because it does not seem like the character, does not mean he can't do it... Take Demyx for example... Put it easily, he was unsteady and a coward... Right before his fight, though, his attitude in whole changes... He is more confident, calm and ready to fight...


so your saying its possible characters can be INconsistent. YEAH, it is. But it's FAR MORE LIKLY they are going to be consistent. Especially for the sake of arguement.



Okay, point taken... But, Xemnas' armor is (for obvious reasons) king-like... Now, going back to BBS, the keyblade MX weilded in the secret ending was shaped like an axe... Now, an axe can show a high status level... King...?

Kings are almost always knights before they become kings. And also just beacuse Xemnas has his own little throne chair doesn't make him a king. All the ORG members sit on thrones and none of them are "kings". Also we don't know if Terra, Aqua or Ven don't have thrones of there own to sit on. They could all very well be Kings. Again, not worth discussing this.



*facepalm* Has anyone stop to think that Terra may, possibly, go there at a certain time each year to pay respects for Aqua and Ven...?

Again, saying that we just happen to bust him and that its a coincidence is weak. See up.


The interviewer asked that...
Nomura never mentioned that the armor is connected at all...


"The armored figures have a connection to Xemnas but after all I can't give any specifics at the present stage."

And if he was just talking about Terra looking like Xehanort he wouldn't have said armor figureS plural. So yeah, he kinda did.
 
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guys i dont think he has a face seeing hes all dark i think hes a minion created by Master Xehanort
 

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Here is the 'Trex's reason for no DS face:

Think of him as Darth Vader, you don't actually see his face until the last of the movies (I am talking about the Original Trilogy, when that first come out)

But the whole time, he was incredibly evil and dark. You didn't need to see his face to know when he was pretty "****ed" off.

~FULL OF ****~

When the DS has declared he is Terra's father, then we shall see his face.

~END~

We will probably see his face towards the end of, Birth By Sleep. Then it will probably be a major plot twist and he could infact be Xehanort!!!! *Dramatic Pause*
 

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Just a game? Maybe to you.

It's a little bit more than that to me....

/SIGH. And to Omni, yes this is a quote FROM THE INTERVIEWER not from nomura, however i do think the person doing this interview is fairly educated in things KH so take it for what you will. Furthermore, do the 3 armored figures that appear there and the similar looking armored figure in the Last Battle have some relation to Xemnas?

Why would he say 3 armored figures if he was just talking about terra and xehanort. -_-. He's Clearly making a comparison between ALL THREE CHARACTERS ARMOR, and the ARMOR FROM THE FINAL FIGHT ... Xemnas's. I cannot make this any more clear for you =/

I think you're just seeing something that's not there....

Point is is more far fetched than my theory, given the translated NAME of Terra it is MORE likly he is a ghost/whatever than... he's been wandering desert whatever. And OMNI i don't think its likly that we bust in on Terra JUST as he happen to be paying his respects. Basiclly your saying its a coincidence and i highly doubt that.

Well, convenience is everywhere in KH. VAT gave a few examples.

Also the whole scene has the feeling that whatever THAT is, it's been waiting there for a while, and is going to CONTINUE DOING SO after the fight. I DON"T THINK in Nomura's grand scheme for Terra BBS the game is gonna end with terra going OK...

Yeah, just like I don't think Terra is secretly Xehanort, but I can't be sure about that either, =/.

well Ven and Aqua = DEAD so i'm just gonna go kneel down in the desert.... if someone finds me i'll fight em...then i'm gonna keep kneeling. forever. YEAH, right. talk about your 1% possible.

Well, then let me propose the following scenario: Ven and Aqua both die. MX or DS become Xehanort. Terra is enraged, and uses the power of darkness to look for them and seek revenge. Every once in a while, he feels the need to go the Gathering Place, and pay his respects to his fallen comrades for a bit, before going on with his quest.

Sora goes to the Gathering Place at such a time. He sees his resemblance to Ven, which is why he remarks he's met him before, sees the KK, realizes it's not supposed to be with him, and remembers someone who did him wrong...Xehanort.

Does this seem plausible?

Again, site me a source of ONE OTHER TIME Xemnas uses sarcasm. Till then, yeahNO.

Well, Xemnas doesn't really use sarcasm, but he frequently finds other ways of mocking people. Look at his conversation with AtW. Look at he how mocks everyone for having a heart. Whether this is out of jealousy, or not is irrelevant.

Oh cool. My bad there.

It's fine.

Fine line between Blunt a Rude. I could say the same but again, i'm admitting to rude where as you are still passing yours off as being "blunt." I'm not going to insult you anymore but instead of giving excuses like "This is just how I get about KH".... Just don't do it.

Done. Also, I admitted I was rude in my edited post. Go look at it.

No, i don't think your that bad actually. Just your passing off your theory as fact think is kinda annoying.

And why didn't you just tell me this from the beggining? I'm also not passing off it as fact, regardless of what it may have seemed. I do, now, at least, acknowledge the possibility of Terra being Xehanort.

Yeah I shouldn't pretend to speak for the whole forum but, someone had to say something o_O

See above.


Show me a screenshot of this axe because, i don't see it. Also a keyblade is a keyblade regardless of what it looks like, I think its much higher honor to wield a keyblade than is to wield an AXE. Axe's a crude, blunt, and barbaric. So even if it IS said axe you could easily argue the opposite that an axe indicates lesser status. This point is a waste of time talking about.

It seems you missed his point. A keyblade that RESEMBLES an axe could, possibly, be a subtle hint at indicating a high stature, as it did in ancient times. If you want a screen, I can get it for you.


Yeah, he hated him once he had a history with him. It's clear Terra has a history with MX. And if your argueing Terra doesn't hate MX It seems like in Birth By Sleep that he does. Also Hatred is MOST ASSURADLY a path on the way to darkness. don't make me quote star wars.

Speaking of Star Wars...MX=Palpatine. Mickey=Yoda. Sorry, couldn't resist.


I don't see how the fact that his name is Lingering Sentiment constitues less and 1%. See also the 10 or reasons I posted above. The lowest i could go on this is even, saying there's a 50/50 chance he's real/ghost. And that's being generous on my part.

The chances of him really being there are just as much as him not being there. I'll admit the possibility is higher than 1%, but...


Kings are almost always knights before they become kings.

Not always. Was Mickey a knight before he became king? He was Pete's boat boy.


And also just beacuse Xemnas has his own little throne chair doesn't make him a king. All the ORG members sit on thrones and none of them are "kings". Also we don't know if Terra, Aqua or Ven don't have thrones of there own to sit on. They could all very well be Kings. Again, not worth discussing this.

Yes it is. His armor clearly resembles a king's armor. This, ADDED to the throne, AND the axe...


Again, saying that we just happen to bust him and that its a coincidence is weak. See up.

Like VAT said: coincidences are everywhere.


"The armored figures have a connection to Xemnas but after all I can't give any specifics at the present stage."

And if he was just talking about Terra looking like Xehanort he wouldn't have said armor figureS plural. So yeah, he kinda did.

He asked if the armored figures all had a connection to Xemnas. Where is the armor comparison?
 

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Here is the 'Trex's reason for no DS face:

Think of him as Darth Vader, you don't actually see his face until the last of the movies (I am talking about the Original Trilogy, when that first come out)

But the whole time, he was incredibly evil and dark. You didn't need to see his face to know when he was pretty "****ed" off.

~FULL OF ****~

When the DS has declared he is Terra's father, then we shall see his face.

~END~

We will probably see his face towards the end of, Birth By Sleep. Then it will probably be a major plot twist and he could infact be Xehanort!!!! *Dramatic Pause*

That'd be so predictable, but funny as hell.
Terra: ZOMG TEH HOLI LIGHTNESS! TEH DS IZ MAH PAPPY! NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!

DS: Join the darkside son. We have evil cookies baked with darkness...And puppies too...yeah.

I just watched Episode V and VI last night. When the rebels escaped after the commander said the tractor beam was in place, I shouted at my tv. "DUCK FOR COVER DUDE! You're going to DIE!" Vader didn't have to speak, you knew he was pissed off.

DS's face. Could it be that we were right the whole time and he is Xehanort we know. He took the name, and clothes of MX. Became Master Xehanort's Avenger.
 

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i was thinking that maybe DS is Terra's brother and maybe his face looks like his, think about, it alot of people say Xemnas and Terra look alike so if DS were Terra's brother and they had a strong family resemblence

I still think DS is the Xehanort we know from the first three games
 

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That'd be so predictable, but funny as hell.
Terra: ZOMG TEH HOLI LIGHTNESS! TEH DS IZ MAH PAPPY! NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!

DS: Join the darkside son. We have evil cookies baked with darkness...And puppies too...yeah.

I just watched Episode V and VI last night. When the rebels escaped after the commander said the tractor beam was in place, I shouted at my tv. "DUCK FOR COVER DUDE! You're going to DIE!" Vader didn't have to speak, you knew he was pissed off.

DS's face. Could it be that we were right the whole time and he is Xehanort we know. He took the name, and clothes of MX. Became Master Xehanort's Avenger.

~OFF TOPIC~

Lol I love that bit, I couldn't stop laughing. It's the way Vader walks off :)

~ON TOPIC~

If it is infact the Xehanort we all know and love from KH2, I would laugh and it wouldn't acctually be surprising.
 
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It's a little bit more than that to me....

It's a Lot more than that to me.


I think you're just seeing something that's not there....

Ok your in some serious denial about this one but like I said its spelled out painfully clear so not sure what else to tell you =/


Well, convenience is everywhere in KH. VAT gave a few examples.

Fine, but for the sake of discussion let's assume its not just convienency. Otherwise we got nothin' on anything.



Well, then let me propose the following scenario: Ven and Aqua both die. MX or DS become Xehanort. Terra is enraged, and uses the power of darkness to look for them and seek revenge. Every once in a while, he feels the need to go the Gathering Place, and pay his respects to his fallen comrades for a bit, before going on with his quest.

Seems wierd to me that MX would kill Ven and Aqua but leave Terra alive when he obviously has the power to KEEL him as well. Also, if your obessed with revenge, think you go ALL OUT and OBSESSIVELY search for you revenge. Its not like Revenge, but oh, i'm gonna take a break from Revenge and mourn for a while. ok now back to REEEVEENGEE!!

Also, explain this: When you arrive it the dessert, TERRA IS NOT THERE. Some dust blows around and he APPEARS OUT OF NOWHERE. Hmmm, that's odd. So there goes the theory of us interupting him. Appearing out of nowhere like that seems like something spirits tend to do....


Well, Xemnas doesn't really use sarcasm, but he frequently finds other ways of mocking people. Look at his conversation with AtW. Look at he how mocks everyone for having a heart. Whether this is out of jealousy, or not is irrelevant.

So you think that Xemnas just waltzes down to this Secret Chember and spends most of his time mocking aqua's armor? There's a real easy way to solve this, go watch this scene and listen to the japanese voice actor and see if you hear anything resembeling a mocking tone or sarcasm. If you can't tell, ask someone who can speak japanese to tell you.



I do, now, at least, acknowledge the possibility of Terra being Xehanort.

All i've wanted to hear.



It seems you missed his point. A keyblade that RESEMBLES an axe could, possibly, be a subtle hint at indicating a high stature, as it did in ancient times. If you want a screen, I can get it for you.

Just becuase you found ONE tribe on wikipedia where an axe meant status isn't enough to support this. Why? Because the vast majority, aka the Stereotype of an Axe-Weilder is that of a lower-class, barbaric warrior. NOT someone who uses magic and NOT someone who uses brains. CERTIANLY not a scientist. That's like me saying I found a tribe on wiki that showed lower class slaves held their hands behind their backs in the way MX does, and that it was a sign to show their humble lower-classness. You'd tell me to go to hell and rightly so, because thats BS.



Speaking of Star Wars...MX=Palpatine. Mickey=Yoda. Sorry, couldn't resist.

You def should have resisted :huh: I cringe at KH being mentioned in the same sentence as that garbage.



The chances of him really being there are just as much as him not being there.

Cool, sounds like 50 50 to me.


Not always. Was Mickey a knight before he became king? He was Pete's boat boy.

Exceptions to the rule, obviously.



Yes it is. His armor clearly resembles a king's armor. This, ADDED to the throne, AND the axe...

So what. It's symbolic of Xemnas' status as The Superior. Doesn't make it any less comparable to the armor of Ven, Aqua, and Terra. In all likly hood, Xemnas was studying Aqua's armor down below and created his modeled after it. After all, he was trying to regain his memories and if he's Terra he knows deep down somewhere he used to have armor of his own....






He asked if the armored figures all had a connection to Xemnas. Where is the armor comparison?

for the last time, his wording was do the armored figures have a comparison to the armor'd fiure in the last battle? He does NOT use the name Xemnas but uses the word ARMOR. -_-
 

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It's a Lot more than that to me.

I understand.

Ok your in some serious denial about this one but like I said its spelled out painfully clear so not sure what else to tell you =/

I'm not. I just don't see it.

Fine, but for the sake of discussion let's assume its not just convienency. Otherwise we got nothin' on anything.

Alright then...

Seems wierd to me that MX would kill Ven and Aqua but leave Terra alive when he obviously has the power to KEEL him as well. Also, if your obessed with revenge, think you go ALL OUT and OBSESSIVELY search for you revenge. Its not like Revenge, but oh, i'm gonna take a break from Revenge and mourn for a while. ok now back to REEEVEENGEE!!

I can see him doing that...what? Also, did you ever consider that Terra might have managed to escape?

Also, explain this: When you arrive it the dessert, TERRA IS NOT THERE. Some dust blows around and he APPEARS OUT OF NOWHERE. Hmmm, that's odd. So there goes the theory of us interupting him. Appearing out of nowhere like that seems like something spirits tend to do....

It might just be an effect...but I realize the possibilities of that are a little slim.


So you think that Xemnas just waltzes down to this Secret Chember and spends most of his time mocking aqua's armor?

Not necessarily mocking, but just talking to it.

There's a real easy way to solve this, go watch this scene and listen to the japanese voice actor and see if you hear anything resembeling a mocking tone or sarcasm. If you can't tell, ask someone who can speak japanese to tell you.

There is also the possibility of him using the word for lack of a better term...

All i've wanted to hear.

Good.


Just becuase you found ONE tribe on wikipedia where an axe meant status isn't enough to support this. Why? Because the vast majority, aka the Stereotype of an Axe-Weilder is that of a lower-class, barbaric warrior. NOT someone who uses magic and NOT someone who uses brains. CERTIANLY not a scientist. That's like me saying I found a tribe on wiki that showed lower class slaves held their hands behind their backs in the way MX does, and that it was a sign to show their humble lower-classness. You'd tell me to go to hell and rightly so, because thats BS.

It wasn't just one tribe, it was frequent.


You def should have resisted :huh: I cringe at KH being mentioned in the same sentence as that garbage.

Sorry.


Cool, sounds like 50 50 to me.

Yep.


Exceptions to the rule, obviously.

Yes.


So what. It's symbolic of Xemnas' status as The Superior. Doesn't make it any less comparable to the armor of Ven, Aqua, and Terra. In all likly hood, Xemnas was studying Aqua's armor down below and created his modeled after it. After all, he was trying to regain his memories and if he's Terra he knows deep down somewhere he used to have armor of his own....

Good point...

for the last time, his wording was do the armored figures have a comparison to the armor'd fiure in the last battle? He does NOT use the name Xemnas but uses the word ARMOR. -_-

I don't recall seeing that wording. Look: He asks if the armored figures, Terra, specifically, have a connection to Xemnas. Nomura says yes, but that he can't elaborate on what that connection is.
 

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I think that DS is all of Master Xehanort's Strenght put into one body.

Since MX is so old, he just created some dark copy and mastered to fight with it instead of using his body.
 

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I think it's covered because he might be someone we will reconize right away. maybe Xehanort?
OH!
OH SHIT
I JUST BUSTED MY LIGHT BULB.

OK, we know that Aqua looks ALOT like Kairi ( and is connected to her )
and we know that Ven looks like Sora ( BLEH )
But Terra looks like Xemnas/Xehanort/etc. but not Riku.

What if the D.S. looks like Riku in some way? What if he is Riku's connection?
What a (small) Twist!

I haven't really thought through about this yet so, poke at anything messed-up. >>;

you are a **** Aqua looks nothing like Kairi. go suck a cock
 

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Again, site me a source of ONE OTHER TIME Xemnas uses sarcasm. Till then, yeahNO.

Fine... Point me another time Demyx acted cool during a battle... Till then, the point still stands...

Yeah, he hated him once he had a history with him. It's clear Terra has a history with MX. And if your argueing Terra doesn't hate MX It seems like in Birth By Sleep that he does. Also Hatred is MOST ASSURADLY a path on the way to darkness. don't make me quote star wars.

Yes, but Riku accepted Xehanort without any anger toward him...
Terra, who is angry, would obviously not do such...


Also, explain this: When you arrive it the dessert, TERRA IS NOT THERE. Some dust blows around and he APPEARS OUT OF NOWHERE. Hmmm, that's odd. So there goes the theory of us interupting him. Appearing out of nowhere like that seems like something spirits tend to do....

You yourself believe Terra uses the power of darkness... That being said, do you not find it a possiblity that Terra could have used the Dark Coridors...?

Just becuase you found ONE tribe on wikipedia where an axe meant status isn't enough to support this. Why? Because the vast majority, aka the Stereotype of an Axe-Weilder is that of a lower-class, barbaric warrior. NOT someone who uses magic and NOT someone who uses brains. CERTIANLY not a scientist. That's like me saying I found a tribe on wiki that showed lower class slaves held their hands behind their backs in the way MX does, and that it was a sign to show their humble lower-classness. You'd tell me to go to hell and rightly so, because thats BS.

Axe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
At least since the late Neolithic, elaborate axes (battle-axes, T-axes, etc.) probably indicated the exalted status of their owner...
In other words, it was during the Neolithic age, meaning it did not represnt one tribe...


Exceptions to the rule, obviously.

Then Xemnas could also be an exception...
You can't call one thing an exception and the other not...


you are a **** Aqua looks nothing like Kairi. go suck a cock

WTF...? Dude, don't talk to my friend like that...
Also, FYI, Aqua and Kairi DO look like each other and are connected...
 
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