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luciferian_oath

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OK... some of you may not agree and blah, blah, blah!

I use the preveiws and cutscenes (from final mix) to put this all together...
alright, well in final mix when you fight the unknown he says "you look just like him...". I beleive he is the same unknown from DD, and when talking to Sora, he says he looks like BHK, And when talking to the unknown with the bright eye, he speaks of Sora. thus I came to the conclusion that BHK is the Glowing eyed unknown.

In final mix when Riku is in the world of darkness. The voice (King Mickey) tells Riku that he's lost his body and has ended up in the place of stolen hearts and he has over come darkness. in the same battle with the enigmatic unknown, in the end he say he is a mere shell. I support that riku is the blindfolded unknown, he becomes an unknown to use the shell so he can "meet Sora and Kairi one more time."

I still have more ideas and will post them later, in the mean time please your ideas and comment in positive or negative way. If this has been said already, i didn't steal it from you. I came up with this myself.
 

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Well, everyone knows that the BFU is riku, that was establish forever ago, but the BHK theory is ok.

The only thing I find wrong with your theory is when you said "he (RIku) becomes an unknown to use the shell so he can "meet Sora and Kairi one more time"...

This is the only thing I find that's off. Riku has joined the Organization, without becoming a shell. He is plain flesh and blood, but chose the path to twilight, and joined Diz so he could study the heart so he can free himself of Ansem's darkness. Once he has accomplished this, he will go back to his friend, and try and make amends.

Proof? Example of the end of COM:

Mickey: SO you going home now?

RIku: I don't know if I can... His scent... it's faint, but still there. His darkness may still have a hold on me. I can't go back until it's gone...
 

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Themuffinman said:
Well, everyone knows that the BFU is riku, that was establish forever ago, but the BHK theory is ok.

The only thing I find wrong with your theory is when you said "he (RIku) becomes an unknown to use the shell so he can "meet Sora and Kairi one more time"...

This is the only thing I find that's off. Riku has joined the Organization, without becoming a shell. He is plain flesh and blood, but chose the path to twilight, and joined Diz so he could study the heart so he can free himself of Ansem's darkness. Once he has accomplished this, he will go back to his friend, and try and make amends.

Proof? Example of the end of COM:

Mickey: SO you going home now?

RIku: I don't know if I can... His scent... it's faint, but still there. His darkness may still have a hold on me. I can't go back until it's gone...

great theory
 

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Well, see...

A "Shell" is when a body has no heart... When the heart leaves, thats when you bcome a shell. A Shell isn't a weapon or anything it's actually a state of being. Riku once was a shell, but when he found his way out of Kingdom Hearts with Mickey, he got his heart, body, and soul back.
 

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Riku Is not a shell.....
He had stole Sora keyblade when riku's heart became stronger than sora
Riku allways had a heart
Light or Dark
it is still there
 

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if he did not have a heart then how was he able to use the obliviene in the deep dive video since you need a stronlg heart to use a keyblade
 

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anyway i am still sticking to the fact that he uses a shell

King mickey (i think) also lost his body, that was so he could get the keyblade on the other side of the door... so, like riku, he uses a shell to sustain himself.

in the battle with the enigmatic unknown, he says Sora is incomplete, therefor i think BHK and Sora must fuse (much like sora and goofy) to become complete. with this i support BHK is from (not a different reality) a different world. in one of the previews for KH II, BHK is fighting a large dusk on a big platform, much like Sora and his dream at the begining of the game.

In my beleif there are 3-4 keyblades:
light-Sora
dark-Mickey
Dawn(maybe, just a prediction)-Riku(maybe)
twilight-BHK
 

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:sage: said:
i agree. BHK = GEU.
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BHK can't be GEU because if he was then that would mean he was a shell since everyone in the organization is a shell but BHK can't be shell because that would mean that he did not have a heart and he has to have very strong one since he is able to use 2 of the most poweful forms of the keyblade and to use a keyblade you must have a heart meaning that he has a heart and since he has a heart he can't be a shell meaning he can't be a member of the organization and meaning he can't be GEU :D
 
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BHK can't be GEU because if he was then that would mean he was a shell since everyone in the organization is a shell

um who says everyone in the organization is a shell? mickey and riku are in it and they are not shells. get your facts straight buddy.
 

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we don't know if ther in it just becase the have that rob on those not mean the are in it and if it did that would mean that BHK would be in it to and i highly don't think he is in the organization
 

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The problem in your theory is still there...

"Using a shell"...

Your making it seem like a shell is a weapon or soem thing! It's not a weapon, its a state of existance! One who is nothing more than a shell, is one who has lost their heart, but their body stays. The heart goes on it's own thing, becoming a heartless or whatnot, but the body remains as a shell of it's former being!

Riku was once a shell, byut when he was freed from kingdomhearts with the help of Mickey, he got his heart and soul back, therefore no longer being a shell!
 

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Themuffinman said:
The problem in your theory is still there...

"Using a shell"...

Your making it seem like a shell is a weapon or soem thing! It's not a weapon, its a state of existance! One who is nothing more than a shell, is one who has lost their heart, but their body stays. The heart goes on it's own thing, becoming a heartless or whatnot, but the body remains as a shell of it's former being!

I never intended it to be a weapon... more as a host orsomething to hold their heart, soul and essence. i don't say it is a shell when they're using it, i'm saying they take a shell and use it as a "body".

Themuffinman said:
Riku was once a shell, byut when he was freed from kingdomhearts with the help of Mickey, he got his heart and soul back, therefore no longer being a shell!

Have you read what I'm saying! Riku's heart was strong enough to free himself from the body which he formed with Ansem which was destroyed. Thus he was in the realm of darkness were he and king mickey escaped using shell's to keep their physical existance. so in reality they wouldn't be just "ghosts".
 
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