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I'll be explaining the various kinds of enemies in the Kingdom Hearts universe, how they're created, what happens when they die, and what their goals are. If you feel you are very familiar with the details and lore behind these enemies, then this post is not for you. Over a long time playing the Kingdom Hearts games, I've notice many people left confused about these enemies, whether it be in real life, or online, so I'm making this post to hopefully clear up that confusion. Enjoy!

(This is a part of my "Explained" series of posts. To view my "Time Travel Explained" post, click here, to view my "The Braig/Xigbar Situation Explained" post, click here, and to view my "The Realm of Sleep Explained" post, click here.)

What are Heartless? Heartless are the main and first enemy type introduced in the Kingdom Hearts series. Most of them are ink black in color and only act on instinct. They can be seen in various of the many worlds and realms in the universe of Kingdom Hearts. The stronger your heart is with the darkness, the more powerful your Heartless you produce will be. There are two types of Heartless: Pureblood Heartless and Emblem Heartless.

What goal do Heartless try to achieve? Heartless mainly attempt to find and devour hearts, whether it be the heart of people, or the hearts of worlds. When they devour the heart of a person, then that person becomes a Heartless as well. Heartless, along with other beings strong with dark powers, are able to use portals called Corridors of Darkness. This portals allow them to travel from world to world and from realm to realm. It is dangerous for just anyone to use these portals however, because it is exposing you to direct darkness and it could affect your heart. That is why Heartless mostly use them since they are beings of straight darkness.

How are Pureblood Heartless created? Pureblood Heartless were the first types of Heartless to exist. Pureblood Heartless are also known as natural Heartless, since they exist from natural causes. There are two ways a Pureblood Heartless can be created. The first way that a Pureblood Heartless can be created, is when someone succumbs to the darkness in their heart. Once this happens, the darkness inside their heart will devour their heart, then that darkness becomes a Pureblood Heartless. The second way that a Pureblood Heartless can be created is simply by drawing parts of the darkness out of your heart. Only beings that are strong with the darkness are able to do this, such as Xehanort. For example, in Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep, Xehanort was able to create Neoshadow Heartless simply by drawing out the darkness in his heart. Similarly, Riku in the first Kingdom Hearts, was able to create an AntiSora Heartless simply by drawing out the darkness in his heart. Pureblood Heartless are simply darkness of the heart, made flesh. When a heart is unlocked or succumbs to the darkness, the darkness within comes out and becomes a Pureblood Heartless, and devours the heart while it's at it.

When a Pureblood Heartless devours someone else's heart, then the darkness within that person's heart will come out and become a Pureblood Heartless as well. When Heartless devour the heart of a world, that world falls to darkness, meaning it ends up in the Realm of Darkness.

How are Emblem Heartless created? Emblem Heartless were originally created by a machine made by Apprentice Xehanort, along with the other apprentices of Ansem the Wise. This machine reproduced the process in which Pureblood Heartless are created. This means that this machine was able to produce artificial Heartless by making hearts be consumed by darkness. Emblem Heartless are essentially darkness that has a trapped heart inside, unlike Pureblood Heartless which are essentially darkness that have devoured the heart and become one with it.

Emblem Heartless can also be created when an Emblem Heartless consumes someone else's heart, just like how Pureblood Heartless are created when a Pureblood Heartless consumes someone else's heart.

What happens when Heartless are destroyed? When you destroy a Pureblood Heartless, the heart within them isn't visibly/physically released, but it is definitely freed. The freed heart will eventually end up turning back into a Heartless. When a Pureblood Heartless is destroyed by a Keyblade, then it's freed for good. It goes into a sort of limbo state and waits for the corresponding Nobody to be destroyed so that it can combine back with the body and recomplete the original person. If the person has no corresponding Nobody, then all you have to do to recomplete them is destroy their Heartless (with a Keyblade) since their body is already waiting in the limbo state.When Emblem Heartless are destroyed, the corrupted heart that's freed will end up turning back into a Heartless, just like the Pureblood Heartless. Except the hearts are visibly freed. When Emblem Heartless are destroyed by a Keyblade, the heart is freed for good and goes into the aforementioned limbo state and waits for the Nobody counterpart to be destroyed, just like the Pureblood Heartless. If there is no Nobody counterpart, then all you need to do to recomplete the original person is to destroy the Heartless with a Keyblade. Them being destroyed by a Keyblade also allows Organization XIII to be able to collect the hearts before they get a chance to recomplete.

What are Nobodies? Nobodies were the second enemy type introduced in the Kingdom Hearts series. They are mainly white in color, and they lack hearts. Many Nobodies also use Corridors of Darkness as well. Since they have no hearts, Corridors of Darkness are a huge convenience for them since they can use them without being affected.

What goal do Nobodies try and achieve? Nobodies do not have a direct goal. Unlike Heartless, Nobodies have a sense of self, so they are basically free to do what they please. Most of them however, work together to achieve the one thing they truly want: their hearts. Since Nobodies have no hearts, they do not have emotions or feelings. They do however remember what it was like to have emotions and feelings.

How are Nobodies created? When somebody loses their heart and become a Heartless, their body and soul fade away and wait for its Heartless counterpart to be destroyed by a Keyblade so the original person can be recompleted. If you had a particularly strong heart however, then your soul will continue living on inside of your body, therefore making your body live on as well. This is what a Nobody is. The stronger your heart was, the more humanoid and the more like you, your Nobody looks. People with slightly weaker hearts, become less and less human looking and take the form of creature type beings that somewhat resemble Heartless, other than the color differences.

Organization XIII, a group of powerful Nobodies, are able to convert other powerful Nobodies into lesser, creature-type Nobodies, such as Dusks, as well, presumably using a machine to do so.

What happens when Nobodies are destroyed? If a Nobody is destroyed, then it fades away. When someone's Nobody and corresponding Heartless are both destroyed, then that original person will return as a complete being, with heart, body, and soul all intact. (The Heartless needs to be destroyed by a Keyblade). If somebody didn't have a strong enough heart to produce a Nobody, then simply destroying their Heartless with a Keyblade will make them return since their body and soul, the things that would have created a Nobody, have already been destroyed.When you return as a complete being, you have all of your memories from when you were a Nobody as well as your old memories. You do not remember your time as a Heartless though.

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  • Nobodies are actually able to regrow hearts of their own. It is currently unknown what the specifics of this are and what the exact process is.
  • Nobodies have the memories of when they were people.
What are Unversed? Unversed are beings created by extremely strong negative emotions. They spawn from Vanitas and his emotions particularly, presumably because there is no other being with negative emotions as strong as his since he is a being of pure darkness. The negative emotions are so strong, that they take physical form, which is what Unversed are. Their goal is to do whatever Vanitas orders them to do, and when they are destroyed, their negativity flows right back into Vanitas.

What are Dream Eaters? Dream Eaters are beings that exist and are born in the Realm of Sleep. They can also be created artificially. They are the Realm of Sleep's own personal way of darkness taking form as creatures. They are also the physical embodiments of dreams. They consume dreams. There are two types of Dream Eaters: Spirits and Nightmares. Spirits eat bad dreams, while Nightmares eat good dreams and plant bad ones. When they are destroyed, they seem to simply vanish, but Dream Eaters essentially work the same way dreams do since they are the physical embodiments of dreams, so all you'd have to do to get a Dream Eater to return after being destroyed is to dream it up again. That would be pretty difficult though since you can't really control what you dream about.

Sora and Riku used fragments they collected from Nightmare Dream Eaters to artificially create their own Spirit Dream Eaters. The Master of Masters artificially created Spirit Chirithy Dream Eaters as well, probably using the same method as Sora and Riku.

That is what we know so far about all the enemy types in the Kingdom Hearts universe. Now, I will explain various characters' involvements with these enemy types and how they relate to them.

Sora In the first Kingdom Hearts, Sora stabbed himself in the heart with the Keyblade of Heart. This unlocked his heart, therefore making the darkness in his heart come out and become a Pureblood Heartless. When Sora stabbed himself with the Keyblade of Heart, he had Kairi and Ventus' hearts inside of him. This also created Sora's Nobody, Roxas. Roxas is a special Nobody since he was created by a unique circumstance. Since Sora had Ventus' heart inside of him, Ventus' heart went with his body and soul (Roxas) and went inside of Roxas. Kairi's heart returned to her body and she was recompleted. Since Kairi is a Princess of Heart, she has special light abilities. Since this is the case, she was able to purify Sora's Heartless and bring him back to his human form. Sora was able to return back to his human form without the need and use of his body or soul, which is an extremely unique circumstance. He had technically become a walking, talking heart, until Roxas returned to him.

Another thing to mention is how Sora's Heartless had a sense of self. When you willingly give in to the darkness and become a Heartless, then your Heartless will have a sense of self.

Roxas Roxas is the Nobody of Sora. He took on the appearance of Ventus since he has Ventus' heart inside of him. Roxas has since returned back to Sora, and Sora is complete again. Roxas lacks his memory from when he was Sora because Sora's time as a Heartless was so short.

Kairi Kairi is one of the Seven Princesses of Heart, so she doesn't have any darkness within her heart whatsoever. Since this is the case, when her heart left her body, no Heartless was created. Her heart took refuge within Sora and was later returned to her body when Sora stabbed himself with the Keyblade of Heart and she was recompleted. Since she is a Princess of Heart and couldn't produce a Heartless, no Nobody was created either. Her body did not fade away since she had a strong heart, but it did not turn into a Nobody either since she had no darkness within her heart to turn into a Heartless, so her body stayed in a sort of comatose state until her heart returned to her.

Like I stated before, she could not produce a Nobody since there was no darkness within her heart to produce a Heartless. But, when Sora stabbed himself with the Keyblade of Heart, Kairi's heart was released, which then created a Nobody of Kairi since Sora did have darkness within his heart.

Naminé Naminé is the Nobody of Kairi that was created by Sora instead of Kairi, as explained above. Since she was not created by a body or soul, she technically doesn't exist and shouldn't exist, but she does anyway. It is an extremely unique and special circumstance. Since she was created by such a unique circumstance and has a unique bond with Sora since she was created by him instead of Kairi, she is able to manipulate Sora's memories and the people's memories who are close to him. She has since returned to Kairi and Kairi is a complete person again.

As stated above, Roxas has no memories of his time as Sora because Sora's time as a Heartless was so short. Naminé lacks her memory of her time as Kairi for this same reason. Naminé doesn't have her memory of her time as Kairi because Kairi never even had a Heartless to begin with.

Terra-Xehanort Terra-Xehanort, also known as Apprentice Xehanort, is Terra's body taken over by Xehanort and is being used as a host body for Xehanort. He worked as an apprentice under the scientist, Ansem the Wise, so he can get close to the technology and resources that he has. He tested on different people and their hearts to see what affects different tests had. All of his tests ended in the people's hearts collapsing. He locked these people up in cells in a dungeon and since their hearts were collapsing, the darkness within them came out and consumed their hearts and became Pureblood Heartless. Heartless were very rare before these experiments occurred. He then created another test. He put alive people and dead people in the cell with these Heartless. The Heartless went for the alive people, because they had hearts. This caused the Heartless to increase in numbers. Apprentice Xehanort, along with the other apprentices of Ansem the Wise, then created a machine. This machine was the machine stated earlier that artificially created Heartless, known as Emblem Heartless.

Later, Terra-Xehanort turned most of the apprentices into Pureblood Heartless by stabbing them all with his Keyblade. He also succumbed to the darkness and became a Pureblood Heartless himself.

Ansem, Seeker of Darkness Ansem, Seeker of Darkness is the Heartless of Terra-Xehanort. He was created when the Robed Figure let himself be consumed by the darkness in his heart, therefore becoming a Heartless. That is what Ansem, Seeker of Darkness is. He had a sense of self, just like Sora's Heartless did, because he willingly became a Heartless. He is one of the only people to retain a human appearance after becoming a Heartless. He has since been destroyed by Sora.

Scar Scar gave into the darkness in his heart, which caused the darkness within his heart to come out, consume his heart, then turn into a Pureblood Heartless. Scar retained his regular appearance, much like Ansem, Seeker of Darkness. He also had a sense of self, because he willingly became a Heartless.

After Scar's Heartless was defeated, a strange and unique phenomenon occurred. Beings known as The Ghosts of Scar were formed from the lingering darkness of Scar. It is unknown why or how this exactly happened, and it is unknown if these "ghosts" would be classified as Heartless or not, but they were able to merge together to create an Emblem Heartless known as a Groundshaker, which is an even stranger phenomenon that has no current explanation.

Xemnas Xemnas is the Nobody of Terra-Xehanort, created when Terra-Xehanort succumbed to the darkness and became a Heartless. Xemnas has since been destroyed by Sora.

Since both Xehanort's Heartless and Nobody have been destroyed, Xehanort has returned as a complete person.

Vanitas Vanitas is the darkness from inside of Ventus, taken humanoid form. Ventus was used by Xehanort to try and fulfill his plan of recreating the χ-blade. To recreate the χ-blade, two beings, one of pure light, and one of pure darkness, need to clash. So, Xehanort extracted the darkness side of Ventus' heart from within Ventus and it took a physical, humanoid form, known as Vanitas.

Since Vanitas is a being of complete darkness, without a single bit of light within him, he produces extremely strong negative emotions. These negative emotions are so strong, that they take physical forms, known as Unversed.

Riku In Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance, Riku is considered to be a Dream Eater, because he has the ability to dive into Sora's dreams, and defeat the bad dreams, just like a Spirit Dream Eater would.

That's it! I hope this was able to help anyone who was puzzled or somewhat confused with any of the enemies in the Kingdom Hearts universe :)

Feel free to ask any questions in the comments below.
 
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Your posts certainly are good. Just needs a touch up here and there :3

If someone was turned into an Emblem Heartless instead of a Pureblood Heartless, then they won't return as a complete person until their Emblem Heartless is destroyed by a Keyblade, like was stated previously.
The keyblade rule applies for both heartless. As pointed out in KH1's Ansem Reports and again in Days the only differences between Purebloods and Emblems is their origin and that Emblems capture hearts.

Aside from these two instances these beings are identical. Meaning to truly destroy any type of heartless you have to use a keyblade or some other unique means such as Kairi purifying Sora or Diz's machine purifying Riku of Ansems lingering presence.

The Emblem aspect is just given more emphasis because it was the Orgs goal to collect the hearts they release when destroyed by a keyblade. However it remains true for both that they'll reform if destroyed by other normal means.

There goal is to do whatever Vanitas orders them to do, and when they are destroyed, they simply vanish.
Actually it's a loop as explained by Vanitas himself or even Nomura.

-- There was a new enemy this time called the Unversed, how did you think them up?
Nomura: Since they couldn't be around during KH, we needed to have an enemy that could no longer exist during that time. So we connected them to Vanitas, so that when he disappeared they will have disappeared as well. Their design concept was "emotions", so we see them with smiling faces, angry faces, crying faces... they were designed with many different expressions. The Unversed mark is also meant to be a heart that expresses emotions.
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Vanitas being split from Ventus caused the negativity for Vanitas' emotions to spawn into Unversed. Upon destruction they flow back into him. Basically meaning is is both their source and their final destination and when he was destroyed they went with him.

What are Dream Eaters?
Dream Eaters are beings that exist and are born in the Realm of Sleep. They are physical embodiments of dreams. They consume dreams. There are two types of Dream Eaters: Spirits and Nightmares. Spirits eat bad dreams, while Nightmares eat good dreams and plant bad ones. When they are destroyed, they simply vanish

That is what we know so far about all the enemy types in the Kingdom Hearts universe. Now, I will explain various characters' involvements with these enemy types and how they relate to them.
Not entirely.

Yen Sid said:
Yen Sid: But these Sleeping Worlds are said to have their own manner of
darkness.

(The small image of a dog-like creature appears on the wizard's desk)

Yen Sid: They are called "Dream Eaters," and there are two kinds--
"Nightmares," which devour happy dreams--and benevolent "Spirits," which
consume the Nightmares.

(A lighter colored version of the creature appears beside it. It paws the
air cutely and rolls over)

Yen Sid: The Dream Eaters will guide you, just as the Heartless once guided
you, to the Keyhole you seek at the heart of each world.


Dream Eaters aren't just formations of dreams but also the form darkness takes within the Realm of Sleep. Which kinda creates a small nod to the fact that darkness isn't inherently evil nor good since the Spirit class devours the Nightmare class despite both being dark in origin.

Kairi had Sora's heart inside of her, so when she hugged him, his heart left her body and merged back with his Heartless and became whole again. Sora was able to return back to his human form without the need and use of his body or soul, which is an extremely unique circumstance. He had technically become a walking, talking heart, until Roxas returned to him.

Another thing to mention is how Sora's Heartless had a sense of self. When you willingly give in to the darkness and become a Heartless, then your Heartless will have a sense of self.
This isn't true. Sora's heart wasn't in Kairi. A heart is at the core of every heartless because it is from that hearts darkness they form. The heart is in a lost sense of self overwhelmed by it's own darkness. This is why a person reforms when the heartless is destroyed because it's that heart being freed from it's own darkness imprisoning it.
What Kairi did was "purify" Sora's heartless restoring his sense of self and human form.

Sora also admits his own sense of self was fading away before Kairi saved him:

Sora: I was lost in the darkness. I couldn’t find my way. As I stumbled
through the dark, I started forgetting things—my friends, who I was.
The darkness almost swallowed me. But then I heard a voice—your voice.
You brought me back.

Kairi: I didn’t want to just forget about you, Sora. I couldn’t.

Sora: That’s it! Our hearts are connected.

(He puts a hand to his chest)

Sora: And the light from our hearts broke through the darkness. I saw
that light. I think that’s what saved me. No matter how deep the darkness,
a light shines within. I guess it’s more than just a fairy tale.
Kairi is incapable of having darkness so Sora couldn't stumble through it if he was in her rather than the heartless in front of her. A heart and it's heartless are a conjoined being, the heartless taking form through that hearts runaway darkness.

Had Kairi not saved Sora he would've eventually become as mindless as the rest did. So far the only case of a being remaining sentient while in a heartless state has been Xehanort's Ansem. He was able to retain himself even without help and wandered for ten years in that brown robed from of his before eventually stealing Rikus body to retake his human form.

Naminé
Naminé is the Nobody of Kairi that was created by Sora instead of Kairi, as explained above. Since she was not created by a body or soul, she technically doesn't exist and shouldn't exist, but she does anyway. It is an extremely unique and special circumstance. Since she was created by such a unique circumstance and has a unique bond with Sora since she was created by him instead of Kairi, she is able to manipulate Sora's memories and the people's memories who are close to him. She has since returned to Kairi and Kairi is a complete person again.
Namine was created by both. A nobody & heartless is made as a heart is leaving the body while darkness is taking over. As mentioned Kairi can't normally do this due to her status. However since her heart was leaving Sora as he was undergoing this ordeal Namine formed. However Namine wouldn't have been created at all had Kairis heart not been within Sora to leave his body.

Basically Sora allowed the unique circumstances but Namine still was formed by Kairi's heart leaving. Sora just gave environment for such a being to be born while Kairi actually caused her to be born.

Riku Replica
Riku Replica is a Replica, created using a sample of Riku's memories. He has since returned to Riku and Riku is a complete person again.
It has never been stated anywhere Repliku returned to Riku. He was made based on "data" Vexen had and his memories from there was his own before namine implanted false ones. Meaning He had nothing of Riku to return, he was made on copied data. Like how you build a machine based on something in nature. (like cameras getting inspiration from how a human eye works)

He is one of the only Heartless to retain a human appearance.
He didn't have a human appearance. He had this one:

Ansem: At the start of your test, when you struck out from that tiny island,
you saw me there dressed in a robe. Immediately you knew something was
wrong, so without even knowing it, you dove into Sora's dream. And you
became exactly what that sigil on your back represents--a Dream Eater to
protect Sora from nightmares.


Exactly what he looked like under that robe is never stated. We only know he took on the human look after stealing Rikus body in KH1.
 
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Your posts certainly are good. Just needs a touch up here and there :3
Thanks, I make these posts to inform people, so I'm always open to criticism or corrections :)

The keyblade rule applies for both heartless. As pointed out in KH1's Ansem Reports and again in Days the only differences between Purebloods and Emblems is their origin and that Emblems capture hearts.
Actually it's a loop as explained by Vanitas himself or even Nomura.
Dream Eaters aren't just formations of dreams but also the form darkness takes within the Realm of Sleep. Which kinda creates a small nod to the fact that darkness isn't inherently evil nor good since the Spirit class devours the Nightmare class despite both being dark in origin.

This isn't true. Sora's heart wasn't in Kairi. A heart is at the core of every heartless because it is from that hearts darkness they form. The heart is in a lost sense of self overwhelmed by it's own darkness. This is why a person reforms when the heartless is destroyed because it's that heart being freed from it's own darkness imprisoning it.
What Kairi did was "purify" Sora's heartless restoring his sense of self and human form.

It has never been stated anywhere Repliku returned to Riku.
Yeah, you're right about all of this, I'll edit the post with corrections, thank you.

Sora also admits his own sense of self was fading away before Kairi saved him:
Yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that he still had a sense of self. It was fading, but he was still able to retain it in the beginning, which is very unique.



He didn't have a human appearance. He had this one:
No, that is not Xehanort's Heartless, that is Xehanort's Heart. I know that many people in the games and in interviews refer to the Robed Figure as a Heartless, but they're just doing that because he is pretty much the same person as Ansem, Seeker of Darkness. It has been explained many times that the Robed Figure is Xehanort, reduced to just a heart. A heart is not a Heartless. A Heartless is the darkness within someone's heart that has come out and consumed their heart (well, a Pureblood is any way). If the Robed Figure was simply Xehanort's Heartless, Young Xehanort and the rest of them would refer to him as a Heartless, rather than a heart. I'd say that the Seekers of Darkness are the most trustworthy source when it comes to explaining their own members. What happened is, Apprentice Xehanort extracted his heart. That is what the Robed Figure is. His body and soul then became Xemnas. The reason why Apprentice Xehanort extracted his heart rather than becoming a Heartless at first was for 2 reasons. The first reason is so he can time travel to go meet Young Xehanort. The second reason is so he could easily take host of Riku's body, so he can wield the Keyblade of Heart. If he had became a Heartless first, then he wouldn't have been able to take host of Riku, because he would've had no Keyblade to use to extract his heart and put inside Riku's body. After everything was over and done, he then became a Heartless, which is the Ansem, Seeker of Darkness we all know and love. How he became a Heartless? Most likely by allowing the darkness to consume him, like Scar did.

Exactly what he looked like under that robe is never stated. We only know he took on the human look after stealing Rikus body in KH1.
Yeah, it was never stated what he looked like, but was stated that the Robed Figure was just a heart, so he most likely looks like a heart. And yeah, we only know he took on the human look after stealing Riku's body, but that was because he became a Heartless. Ansem, Seeker of Darkness is what Xehanort's Heartless looks like.


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Heartless can be created, is when someone succumbs to the darkness in their heart. Once this happens, the darkness inside their heart will devour their heart, then that darkness becomes a Pureblood Heartless. The second way that a Pureblood Heartless can be created is simply by drawing parts of the darkness out of your heart. Only beings that are strong with the darkness are able to do this, such as Xehanort. For example, in Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep, Xehanort was able to create Neoshadow Heartless simply by drawing out the darkness in his heart. Similarly, Riku in the first Kingdom Hearts, was able to create an AntiSora Heartless simply by drawing out the darkness in his heart. Pureblood Heartless are simply darkness of the heart, made flesh. When a heart is unlocked, broken, or damaged, the darkness within comes out and becomes a Pureblood Heartless, and devours the heart while it's at it.

Hearltess for me are the biggest enigma for me and halways have and most likely always will be. In another thread titled clarifying lore, Me and other users concluded when you become a heartless, your heart goes into a dormant stasis like sleep state due to the absence of light. The way you define it makes it sound like the darkness in your heart causes the rest of your heart to be "Erased" Correct me if im wrong. If this is the point you are trying to make, Where exactly does the rest of the heart go? This is why I assumed my stasis theory was what happens because it would seem weird for the darkness in your heart to erase your heart and then it just 'Poofs' back into existence. even sora says "deep down there a light that never burns out" I still wish nomura would be more clear on this stuff. Much of KH is too convoluted for me to understand
 

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Hearltess for me are the biggest enigma for me and halways have and most likely always will be. In another thread titled clarifying lore, Me and other users concluded when you become a heartless, your heart goes into a dormant stasis like sleep state due to the absence of light. The way you define it makes it sound like the darkness in your heart causes the rest of your heart to be "Erased" Correct me if im wrong. If this is the point you are trying to make, Where exactly does the rest of the heart go? This is why I assumed my stasis theory was what happens because it would seem weird for the darkness in your heart to erase your heart and then it just 'Poofs' back into existence. even sora says "deep down there a light that never burns out" I still wish nomura would be more clear on this stuff. Much of KH is too convoluted for me to understand
It does sound a little ridiculous to think that they just "poof" back into existence lol. But, that's what happens with people in KH. You destroy their Nobody and it's just "erased", from what we know, or when you destroy someone's Heartless, they're just "erased" as well, but when they're both destroyed, the person "poofs" back into existence. Yeah, it's a little ridiculous lol, but that's how things are. I think the same goes for the heart. When it's destroyed by someone or something or devoured by a Heartless or darkness, I think it's simply destroyed, and then it "poofs" back into existence, just like the body and soul do. Since the body and soul do it as well, I think it's pretty reasonable to assume that the heart does as well. I'd say that out of everything in KH, the only thing that's currently a mystery and will always be a mystery is where the heart goes, as well as where the body and soul go. I think where they go, is sort of supposed to be kept a mystery and that makes it seem sort of magical in a sense.

But yeah, KH is definitely overly complicated and convoluted, but I think that way in the future, when KH is completely over, I think everything will make complete sense if you look deep into it, but yeah, at the current moment, there are many unanswered questions, but many unanswered questions get answered with each new KH game. Yeah, each new KH game also leaves you will new unanswered questions as well, but that's what keeps me, along with many other people, intrigued and wanting more.
 

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Hearltess for me are the biggest enigma for me and halways have and most likely always will be. In another thread titled clarifying lore, Me and other users concluded when you become a heartless, your heart goes into a dormant stasis like sleep state due to the absence of light. The way you define it makes it sound like the darkness in your heart causes the rest of your heart to be "Erased" Correct me if im wrong. If this is the point you are trying to make, Where exactly does the rest of the heart go? This is why I assumed my stasis theory was what happens because it would seem weird for the darkness in your heart to erase your heart and then it just 'Poofs' back into existence. even sora says "deep down there a light that never burns out" I still wish nomura would be more clear on this stuff. Much of KH is too convoluted for me to understand
The day Nomura gives a clear answer for everything is the day when this forum will go silent. =w=

Personally, I don't find it so weird. A Heartless is pretty much the phrase "losing one's self" made flesh, whether it's Pureblood or Emblem. Think of it like... your heart is kinda like a room. Everything that makes up who you are (primarily your memories, really) are stuck to the walls, arranged on shelves, lying on the ground. You stand in that room, and because you can see these things, you know who you are.

So, what happens if you turn off the lights in that room and make it impossible to see? You'll begin to stagger about, with no sense of direction, and even though those objects in the room are still there, they're obscured by the dark to the point that you wouldn't know they exist. That's sort of what happens when a heart is overwhelmed by the darkness and creates a Heartless. The heart isn't really erased, it's just... lost, I suppose. All that darkness just envelopes everything and makes it impossible for any of it to be recognized.

Restoring a Heartless back to its human form isn't so much "poofing" the heart back into existence... it's just turning on the light in the room again.
 

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That was my hypothesis. The heart is in stasis due to the over flooding of darkness
 

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The day Nomura gives a clear answer for everything is the day when this forum will go silent. =w=

Personally, I don't find it so weird. A Heartless is pretty much the phrase "losing one's self" made flesh, whether it's Pureblood or Emblem. Think of it like... your heart is kinda like a room. Everything that makes up who you are (primarily your memories, really) are stuck to the walls, arranged on shelves, lying on the ground. You stand in that room, and because you can see these things, you know who you are.

So, what happens if you turn off the lights in that room and make it impossible to see? You'll begin to stagger about, with no sense of direction, and even though those objects in the room are still there, they're obscured by the dark to the point that you wouldn't know they exist. That's sort of what happens when a heart is overwhelmed by the darkness and creates a Heartless. The heart isn't really erased, it's just... lost, I suppose. All that darkness just envelopes everything and makes it impossible for any of it to be recognized.

Restoring a Heartless back to its human form isn't so much "poofing" the heart back into existence... it's just turning on the light in the room again.
Honestly... this was such a good way to describe it.
 
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