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remember when we fight xemnas in kh2? while he sits on the chair and fight? he looks like a knight right?? so i think that these knights in the secret ending too are somehow connected to the nobodies = organization XIII. maybe a greater form of the nobodies (xemnas is a perfect example) don't you think? plus, what about all these nobodies' heartless? we only know xemnas' heartless right? so there should be a heartless form for every other org. member. when a nobody is created the heart is taken which forms a heartless, and the empty shell begins to act on its when, which forms a nobody. unlike sora and kairi, organization XIII don't change back into their original forms right? which leaves them as nobodies and their heartless too wandering around somewhere. i think these knights are the heartless or something O.O what do u say about this?
 

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I would say... Heartless don't wield Keyblades, even if they're keyblade wielder Heartless (ex. anti-form Sora), so I doubt that they're Heartless. As for them being Nobodies, I personally disagree, because they seemed very passionate in their fighting. They were very emotional. Nobodies don't feel emotions, and while they do remember those emotions to some extent, I don't think you would have had the hotheaded BHS, the pissed ES, or the concerned (for lack of a better word) FS, at least not to that extent.
 

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I would say... Heartless don't wield Keyblades, even if they're keyblade wielder Heartless (ex. anti-form Sora), so I doubt that they're Heartless. As for them being Nobodies, I personally disagree, because they seemed very passionate in their fighting. They were very emotional. Nobodies don't feel emotions, and while they do remember those emotions to some extent, I don't think you would have had the hotheaded BHS, the pissed ES, or the concerned (for lack of a better word) FS, at least not to that extent.

Which is why they could be Hearts. Or some other counterpart, on that note.
 

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Heartless don't wield Keyblades

Why, again?
A heartless is a heart that has fallen into darkness. No body, no soul, just a heart, embodied in darkness.
A keyblade needs a heart to be wielded, it doesn't need a body or soul.
This was proven since Sora still wielded a keyblade even after Roxas was created, and he was incomplete.
 

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Why, again?
A heartless is a heart that has fallen into darkness. No body, no soul, just a heart, embodied in darkness.
A keyblade needs a heart to be wielded, it doesn't need a body or soul.
This was proven since Sora still wielded a keyblade even after Roxas was created, and he was incomplete.

I'm glad to see that someone else other then me realises that Sora was a human shaped Heartless at the end of KH and all throughout CoM until the start of KH2.
 

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Why, again?
A heartless is a heart that has fallen into darkness. No body, no soul, just a heart, embodied in darkness.
A keyblade needs a heart to be wielded, it doesn't need a body or soul.
This was proven since Sora still wielded a keyblade even after Roxas was created, and he was incomplete.

But a heart is useless with out a soul. Pi
 

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I'm glad to see that someone else other then me realises that Sora was a human shaped Heartless at the end of KH and all throughout CoM until the start of KH2.
You're not the only one =P

Could someone please remind me why Roxas was able to weild a keyblade too? Was it because he was born off Kairi as well? [wait...wasn't he? Namine off both, Roxas off both?]
 

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since he was part of sora, though it isn't fully explained how one comes to own a keyblade, sure we know that in sora's case he was chosen since riku accepted evil into his heart, but there are other reasons to (Example, the chasers ways of receiving a keyblade) but there could be other reasons, heck there could be no reason really
 

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since he was part of sora, though it isn't fully explained how one comes to own a keyblade, sure we know that in sora's case he was chosen since riku accepted evil into his heart, but there are other reasons to (Example, the chasers ways of receiving a keyblade) but there could be other reasons, heck there could be no reason really
There is a reason. Otherwise, the keyblade would have remained with Riku rather than Sora. Riku was originally the chosen one for being a keyblade master, but Sora's heart was stronger than his so the keyblade eventually chose him instead.

But there's something more. In the Roxas VS Sora battle cutscene [KHII original] remember when Sora could teleport his keyblade and Roxas couldn't, or he was surprised on that note so he probably could never do such a thing?

Maybe it's just Roxas has lower-level forms of the Oathkeeper and Oblivion. And his Kingdom Key is fake, Ansem just wanted him to believe he was chosen.
 

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that is possible aswell, though i believe it was more to do due to Sora was the real one and not Roxas , so Sora defaultly won in regards to who the keyblade responded too
 

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i was thinking. how come sora can origanly carry 1 keyblade while roxas can carry 2?

btw i doubt xemnas is a knight. maybe xehanort but not xemnas.
 

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well u better play it then. he looks like a knight right? with great power, when he controls everyone's weapons? so it might be that those knights in the video are stronger nobodies of some sort. with much greater power.
 

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Yeah I know that, and I thought that couldn't be coincidence when he looked exactly like one of the knights from the SE.

Well, he is Xenahort's Nobody, so I suppose there's some kind of connection between Xemnas and the Knights.

EDIT: Remember that cutscene where Xemnas visits the Knight in the Room of Sleep? [you find out more about it when Xigbar talks to Zexion about it]. Xemnas KNOWS about the Knights and is doing something to one of them. So what if he was mocking them or trying to act as if he was powerful like them in the final battle, even though Sora probably didn't know who the hell they were?
 

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*Sigh* Airmail is so SLOW! Can't wait 'till I get my copy of KH2:FM+!

Anyway, I thought it would be likely Xigbar would have a connection with the Knights. After all, he is number II in the org. As for now, he, Xemnas and Zexion are the ones in the org who know about the Knights [Xigbar finds out and tells Zexion]

What do you guys think Xemnas was doing to the Knight in the Room of Sleep?
 

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i dunno, maybe he summoned the knight or something. lol. i haven't watched the video 'knight held in basement' but i think that they met after a very long time. but in the PV trailer, the guy who sits in the chair, his body doesn't look like xemnas'. he looks like xehanort's heartless, u know the body in which riku was in kh2 earlier?
 
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