Ok well slightly off now topic wise. It isn't asking do you buy what you buy, but given the choice between 2 products that are similar in price and similar in close to every category (i know not true but still) would you make the decision based on one being a "green" product or do you just grab one?
Sorry to have gone off topic. Yes, I'd buy the green friendly product should it do as it says it does.
Actually, yeah, I do get the coiled light bulbs, but that's because it saves me money in the long run.
Which is what going eco-friendly will do in the long run, save money. Going green may not pay off immediately, but over time it surely will. I agree we need to do further research into making going green more affordable for those who can't afford it. My family couldn't get solar panels or a hybrid, no way we could afford that and still have a house. I am not bashing those who can't buy green, I am bashing the ones who can easily do so and choose not to.
I don't like ass-kissers.
Than you are lucky none are here. A simple compliment was all it was.
The assumption is that these "green" products are genuinely thus. Also you assume that I advocate doing nothing, which is just a big faux pas on your part.
Never said that. You could be the greenest person in the world and that wouldn't effect my arguement. This is about the population, not you or me. (and also a way to get off-topic).
Perhaps, but it takes a long time to walk down the street with baby steps.
True, but everything has to start somewhere. Whether or not our current green products are effective or not, it is a start to getting people into the mind set that we need to change our ways. No matter how small the step, if enough people take that step together, the world will feel it.
Awww, how cute...he's trying to condescend me.
*sigh* before this becomes and insult fest instead of a debate, I'll end the sad attempts of insults we are directed to each other. Fair?
Let's be honest. The real reason why you should be buying "green" is if it's economically as well as ecologically rational. You like to throw around accusations of sloth, but it is not sloth that keeps people from going "green." It is not always economically rational to do so. Why should one spend more money on a product that one can get just as easily for less money? If a family can barely make ends meet, do you really think they're going to give a shit about emissions?
People may be "close-minded," but we can use this to our advantage if we truly want to be "green." Instead of just asking people to spend more to get "green" products, we should focus on making "green" products more affordable. We need to make it rational to go "green."
...but you do accuse them of committing a Deadly Sin.
Uh...hello? Accusations of Sloth?
The irony is you're telling me I should stop making gross oversimplifications. Believe it or not, not every "green" option is economically feasible (whether in regards to time or money).
No, but it is smug to assume that people are lazy if they don't agree with your views.
6 lines of quotes, all for one response. I apologize if it didn't seem clear, I only wrote one small sentence stating this so it probably was easy to overlook. I am not bashing those who can't afford it, like I said earlier I can't afford what I'd like to. This arguement is against those who can buy efficient eco-friendly products but are either too lazy, too close-minded, or too ignorant to the world around them.
They do need to improve the quality, cost, and effectiveness of the green products, that is true. But because they arent perfect or some are fraud, does not mean the whole concept of buying green should be thrown out. Look into it, try it out, and do what you can to improve the environment. The whole 'I alone won't effect anything' needs to stop. Because when everyone thinks that, nothing gets done. When everyone realizes that they can do something, things will change, hopefully for the better.
...as do I.
Majoring in Env Sci or promoting going green? Either way this arguement is pretty lol worthy, never knew two eco-friendlies could argue.
I agree; however, it's not about buying hybrids or "all natural" goods. By simply buying "green" products as they are now, we ultimately are just buying more shit except it produces a different kind(s) waste.
It may be just a new waste, going toward one that is easier to clean up and less in amount that previous waste. These may be small steps, but it shows that the thought of going green is out there and that people are trying to think of new ways to do it. But unless the 'people' get into it and support it, nothing will be gained from the effort.
It's not what you say, it's how you say it.
True. I won't lie, my choice of wording (especially over the computer) is never 100% clear, so my bad if there were any mistranlations of what I was going for.
You eat babies and have sex with other species.
Always possible, everybody's doing it.