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Going into KH 3 is Riku more powerful than Sora?



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Huh, I guess since he has a Master Title now, he might have a few tricks up his sleeves?
 

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Up to DDD I'da say equal, the fact that Riku passed and Sora didn't was very situational.
But perhaps yes, Yen Sd or Mickey might've indeed taught him something more.
 

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Riku just seems like more of the person who'd constantly train in his free time than Sora. Sooo I'd say Riku personally is probably stronger but then again Sora draws his power from his friends anyways.
 

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As of now? Most likely. But given the new abilities Sora will gain in KH3, he will likely surpass Riku once more
 

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Agreed, Riku's strenght comes form himself and he draws power from within.

I'd say in a blank space, without other elements, he's stronger: but Sora's power can increase or decrease according to the situtation and people involved, as every good shonen hero.

...is there a thread about battles and comparisons between characters? Or did someone try that already and failed miserably?
 

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Ish really just perspective and assumptions, as with everything. Riku ish that loner type that draws on his strength that was tempered with darkness, while Sora draws strength with the power of his friends. Ish really kinda equal. I feel Yen Sid just gave Riku the title because Yen Sid thought Riku was just better at handling the darkness within him, pretty much same reason as Eraqus named Aqua master.
 

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Ish really just perspective and assumptions, as with everything. Riku ish that loner type that draws on his strength that was tempered with darkness, while Sora draws strength with the power of his friends. Ish really kinda equal. I feel Yen Sid just gave Riku the title because Yen Sid thought Riku was just better at handling the darkness within him, pretty much same reason as Eraqus named Aqua master.

Nah, Yen Sid made a way better decision than Eraqus.
Eraqus didn't name Terra master out of fear. Actually, his fear was the main reason the exam was so easily sabotaged with it resulting in what happened.
Yen Sid actually thought about what had happened and how important it even was for each of them to achieve the mark of mastery at that point. And as he stated, in the end it was Riku who fulfilled their task to the fullest.
 

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I'd say it's situational. I don't believe one trumps the other in sheer power since both can bring talents to the table. I feel that Riku would be more reliable/consistent in terms of battle where as Sora's resourcefulness and inability to take an L from anyone evens the playing field. The criteria of the Mark of Mastery seeing Aqua get hers and Riku get his, it's really not about power but a mixture of ideology, resolve, and state of mind during the exam; Aqua and Riku bested their friends in these categories during the exam I feel.

.......But if they were gonna have a 1v1 Riku would most definitely give Sora the hands and there's nothing Donald's self-healing can do about it
 

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Nah, Yen Sid made a way better decision than Eraqus.
Eraqus didn't name Terra master out of fear. Actually, his fear was the main reason the exam was so easily sabotaged with it resulting in what happened.
Yen Sid actually thought about what had happened and how important it even was for each of them to achieve the mark of mastery at that point. And as he stated, in the end it was Riku who fulfilled their task to the fullest.

Completely agree.
While I keep thinking Sora's failing was more due to Xehanort's absurd plan than his own inadequacies, it's not Riku's fault he more than aced the test.
Yen Sid saw the strong points, while Eraqus focused on the flaws.

.......But if they were gonna have a 1v1 Riku would most definitely give Sora the hands and there's nothing Donald's self-healing can do about it

I don't know why, but I'm finding the scenery of Riku kicking Sora's booty into next week and Donald healing himself with a stern face in the background really funny.
 

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Nah, Yen Sid made a way better decision than Eraqus.
Eraqus didn't name Terra master out of fear. Actually, his fear was the main reason the exam was so easily sabotaged with it resulting in what happened.
Yen Sid actually thought about what had happened and how important it even was for each of them to achieve the mark of mastery at that point. And as he stated, in the end it was Riku who fulfilled their task to the fullest.

This is excellently put, and I totally agree. I feel for Eraqus because although what he did during that exam was out of fear I feel that it was a fear that was engraved and battered (literally) into him by his supposed "boi" Xehanort. I mean how a guy gonna burn your face with purple fire, walk off, and then you invite him to your crib and have him sit next to you. He still had scorch marks on his face. I would have been sweating bullets too when I saw Terra conjure some mystical gunk on his hands. "Nope. Nope. F. Fail. Better luck next time. Is Xehanort looking at me, crap! I think he's looking at me... daaamn it."


I don't know why, but I'm finding the scenery of Riku kicking Sora's booty into next week and Donald healing himself with a stern face in the background really funny.

It would undoubtedly be the darkest day in KH history. Xehanort be damned.
 
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Nah, Yen Sid made a way better decision than Eraqus.
Eraqus didn't name Terra master out of fear. Actually, his fear was the main reason the exam was so easily sabotaged with it resulting in what happened.
Yen Sid actually thought about what had happened and how important it even was for each of them to achieve the mark of mastery at that point. And as he stated, in the end it was Riku who fulfilled their task to the fullest.

Sigh, sometimes I feel everyone on this website is against me. Regardless of the situation, it still boils down to the same point of what I said previously... but whatevs, I'll just stop talking, seems like that's what everyone wants here anyways...
 

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Riku is most certainly more powerful overall in his convictions, goals, and abilities but Sora has more potential for growth.

Riku has gone through most of his growth thanks to the kind of character arc he was given, but Sora is constantly learning and maturing.

.......But if they were gonna have a 1v1 Riku would most definitely give Sora the hands and there's nothing Donald's self-healing can do about it

I don't know why, but I'm finding the scenery of Riku kicking Sora's booty into next week and Donald healing himself with a stern face in the background really funny.

It would undoubtedly be the darkest day in KH history. Xehanort be damned.

I can't breathe anymore

Sigh, sometimes I feel everyone on this website is against me. Regardless of the situation, it still boils down to the same point of what I said previously... but whatevs, I'll just stop talking, seems like that's what everyone wants here anyways...

That wasn't Void's intent at all.
 

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Not really much to add to what Ethy says. If you state a point, then sorry, but this is a discussion forum and I'll feel free to state my (in this case: different) opinion on the topic as well.
By no means did I try to attack you personally just because I don't agree on something you said about the game(s).
 

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One is a Master. One isn't. Figure it out.

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That's another thing that I'd like to talk about with you fellow kh intellectuals *grabs folding chair and turns it around to be hip*

I get that "Master" can be viewed as just a title but I feel it runs deeper than that. Going back to my statement about ideology, state of mind, and resolve and even more virtues than that. I feel that although Aqua and Riku have a lot to learn they're paving the way for growth and maturity that Terra and Sora might not have displayed. For Terra you can argue not attaining the title of Master could actually be pushing him towards what it takes to be one by overcoming his regrets and sins. Maybe this whole experience will change what he thought being a master meant. He sought power out of fear but now having been dragged through the mud he can be the master he was meant to be. I certainly think he'll be better for it. Not to take the discussion away from Sora and Riku's 1v1 but if we analyze what being a master means maybe we can stop using it as a benchmark for "power" and rather a marker for potential in character, leadership, and to be honest giving anyone and everyone the hands... Not about power though.
 

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Oh, absolutely.

One of the stupidest critique in the fandom (and the KH fandom is full of stupid critiques) is the infamous "Sora saved the Worlds twice, not a Master, Aqua hit some balls of light, became a Master".
Aside from the fact that almost everything Sora did Aqua would've probably done better, power wise, the Mark of Mastery was never about power, as Eraqus himself states at the very beginning.

It's about will, convinctions and strenght of heart. The power and combat prowess are taken from granted at that point, the true purpose of the Exam is making sure you know how to use them without supervision. Ven was arguably strong enough to take the Exam himself, but he obviously lacked characteristic traits to become a leaderless leader.
 

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One of the stupidest critique in the fandom (and the KH fandom is full of stupid critiques) is the infamous "Sora saved the Worlds twice, not a Master, Aqua hit some balls of light, became a Master".
Aside from the fact that almost everything Sora did Aqua would've probably done better, power wise, the Mark of Mastery was never about power, as Eraqus himself states at the very beginning.

People making that critique in this vein also haven't really understood what an exam or a test actually is.
Your grades and accomplishments from earlier tasks or tests do not give you a bonus in the current exams, so bringing up the "Sora saved the Worlds twice"-thingy as an argument is actually stupid as heck.

Yen Sid (or any other examiner) is correct to not let such things influence the grading since then it wouldn't be a fair test for all participants.

As for the question if Riku is more "powerful" than Sora though, I'd answer with another question and bluntly ask what does it matter?
Speaking about "powerful" in which vein is that meant anyways? There are several "categories" of power and traits you can make an argument about.
 

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i think riku would easily whoop sora unless you consider how sora is as powerful as he needs to be, i.e the xemnas battle when he could cut skyscrapers in half and fly through space or when he tapped into friendship energy to fly and fight xehanort's heartless.

of course, i've always been of the mind that sora somehow drew from the powers of the artificial KH (KHs??? what is the plural) the same as xehanort did somehow. or maybe nomura disregarded it so sora could look cool, which still means riku would bring the pain.
 
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