...and an unexpected slight from tywin. good on you tywin. though dudeee, joffrey. keep your mouth closed. y'all know your grandfather really runs westeros. kinda surprised that tywin stuck up for tyrion of sorts. kind of. tywin is reeeeally clever though -- by not actively killing robb and leaving it to frey, tywin can shift his allegiance as much as he likes. i kind of think that tywin doesn't really care about the kingdom, just the lannister family line. and its kinda honourable though its kinda ruinous.