Everything We Know About Unbirths So Far

[El Coqu?]

I know Heartless didn't exist im only saying that because of his outfit, MX's outfit, and how much the unbirths symbol looks like the heartless one

 

[Iridium]

Basically SA he was saying the resemblance is there.

Though again I am neutral.

 

[Smile]

I know Heartless didn't exist im only saying that because of his outfit, MX's outfit, and how much the unbirths symbol looks like the heartless one

That shows much more a connection between the Xehanorts than between DS and anything else, imo.

 

[El Coqu?]

well ok they both have connections but when it comes to the unbirths I think they have something more to do with the Keyblade Master because their symbol is similar to the symbol that VAT wear

 

[Smile]

well ok they both have connections but when it comes to the unbirths I think they have something more to do with the Keyblade Master because their symbol is similar to the symbol that VAT wear

It's similar because all symbols in KH have Hearts in them in one way or another.
If you want a connection to that emblem though, then it's with the Heartless.

 

[Iridium]

The belt buckle doesn't hold too much significance really.
But I see what you mean.

 

[El Coqu?]

I'm just saying but your right. The heartless is the nobodies upside down and visa versa and the top part of the Unbirths is the same as VAT except VAT's have three spikes on the bottom.

 

[Iridium]

That's something I think Nomura added as sort of an easter egg ;3
Still, I'm intrigued at the Unbirth symbol.

Might actually get that as a tattoo XD

 

[El Coqu?]

lol

hey I just thought if Xehanort made the symbol heartless aren't the shadows and neo-shadows pureheartless then, and also are all nobodies born with the symbol on them (excluding Org. XIII). Cause then I'm thinking if symbols are put on those two was there someone who put the symbol on the Unbirths (except those they look like shadows)

 

[Iridium]

Yeah the shadows and other various heartless without symbols are naturally made in darkness.
As for the nobodies we can only guess that they are born without symbols but the ones the the Org actually control are branded with the symbol.

 

[El Coqu?]

Yeah the shadows and other various heartless without symbols are naturally made in darkness.
As for the nobodies we can only guess that they are born without symbols but the ones the the Org actually control are branded with the symbol.

so to me thats sucks because we probably never actually fought a regular nobody and like I said could somebody be controling the Unbirths with symbols

 

[Iridium]

Well if we know the enemies of KH than it's possible unbirths are controlled. Possible suspects are MX and DX and Malef along with any other disney villain that appears in the game.

And how nobodies would function without direction hasn't been stated.

 

[El Coqu?]

I can believe MX and DS but i doubt Malef I think she's on her own in BBS

 

[Smile]

so to me thats sucks because we probably never actually fought a regular nobody

What do you mean 'normal' Nobody? We found enough of them. It's not like the Heartless that some of them have the Emblem and some not.
Also, the Emblem more means what Heartless were made from Hearts stolen by Emblem'd Heartless; The Nobodies created in the process are 'regular' Nobodies.

and like I said could somebody be controling the Unbirths with symbols

Maleficent controlled shadow Heartless just fine. I doubt you really need a symbol to control it.

 

[Iridium]

Well she did control the heartless to an extent in KH1 & KH2 so we can't rule her out.
Actually, a lot of the disney villains did.

 

[El Coqu?]

what is strange to me is that Ansem seeker of darkness didn't even control any heartless and it was Xehanort who made the emblem heartless

 

[Smile]

what is strange to me is that Ansem seeker of darkness didn't even control any heartless

Wot?
Well, to be fair, the Heartless doing what they do naturally and getting the Hearts of Worlds and reaching for Kingdom Hearts served him nicely.
It does seem like he's guiding them in HB, though.

and it was Xehanort who made the emblem heartless

And Xehanort's Heartless is SoD Ansem oO

 

[El Coqu?]

i know those two are the same that's why im saying its strange that he didnt control any

 

[Smile]

i know those two are the same that's why im saying its strange that he didnt control any

Only he did.

 

[Iridium]

Yup, the bit snipers and the darkside pre ansem fight were the heartless he controlled directly.
I guess you could also count the shadows at the HB first visit