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Re: Everything We Know About Birth By Sleep | Unbirths So Far

Just thinking out loud, considering she teamed up with not only Pete (even though hes evil) but Sora, Donald, Goofy, King Mickey, Riku, and Kairi to take out Xemnas

Pete was really just a follower, he was only loyal to her (to an extent) because of the power she wields.
Otherwise they aren't really working together, other then the instance at the end of the game (why not go out in style right?).

Also she really allowed Sora and the gang to move on, just so Xemnas can get out of the way and she can take the castle for herself since her attempt at HB failed. It's a bitter relationship really like most of the villan relationships in KH since they're..well...villains and all.
 

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Well, yeah, you got a point, but I was just thinking up ideas
 

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Re: Everything We Know About Birth By Sleep | Unbirths So Far

Eh, it's alright to speculate, but the only one of VAT that seems to be working (or using vice versa) with Malef is Terra.
 

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Re: Everything We Know About Birth By Sleep | Unbirths So Far

I'll just throw a crazy theory for fun. People have come up with this but I'll add some spice to it.

MX + Terra = Xenohart

Now I believe MX ate Terra, he saw him as a cookie on a drunk night and ate him. Or they did the increadible thing from DBZ.

FU-XION, HA!

P.S. I hope you get the joke of the X part, or I am a retard with no sense of humor, not even at the minimal part.
 

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Re: Everything We Know About Birth By Sleep | Unbirths So Far

LOL

It was funny that they messed up it a bit, and then some weird freakish guy with red and blonde hair came out.

They touched twice, they forgot to do the steps. lol, still funny though.
 

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That was supposed to be Roxel
 

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Re: Everything We Know About Birth By Sleep | Unbirths So Far

lol, Roxel!

Or maybe it could be Axas, mmhhh interesting.
 

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That just sounds wrong. The point is, I think appearence fusion is out of the question
 

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Yeah, there already fanart for that type of stuff anyway.
 
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Just had some random thoughts floating in my head, more concerning unbirth (and more that we already know that I'm just extrapolating on).

Unbirth. The name used literally in the same manner as "Heartless" and "Nobody" has a meaning of "Not Birth" or "Reverse Birth" due to the suffix "un-".

As we know with Heartless and Nobodies, their existence is really the reverse of their names in some form. So with Unbirths, rather than "Not Birth" it would BE "birth." An Unbirth is a birth essentially. So just what exactly is a "birth" then?

"Reverse Birth." Yeah, it sounds like Reverse Rebirth. Even though I don't think the two have anything in common, I think that you can get hints on just what exactly is meant by "birth." Now, for Riku, the title "Reverse Rebirth" is never totally explained in the game. But we know, pretty much, that "Reverse Rebirth" refers to him "reversing" his "rebirth" into a hideous denizen of the dark with Ansem inside of him. That is, he wants to correct his mistakes and be "reborn" again as one of the light. So if he has a "rebirth," then what was his "birth"? Was he born into the world as someone of the light or is it in reference to something else?

I think that might give us somewhat of a better idea.

Though it makes you wonder... while I doubt KH would talk about ACTUAL births... how exactly DOES a person end up being born in KH? By that, I'm referring mainly to the heart. Is there some process by which KH... grants the being a heart or something?
 

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Re: Everything We Know About Birth By Sleep | Unbirths So Far

i like that grace assassin. its like the unbirths are some what the opposite of riku, beings of the light reborn into darkness.
 

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Or maybe, by Unbirth, it means something does not happen that usually happens when something is given birth.
 

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Yeah its quite confusing which is probably the reason that its the farthest thing from what an Unbirth is.
 

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Re: Everything We Know About Birth By Sleep | Unbirths So Far

Here's a completely off the top of my head thought. Seeing as BBS is some what based around memories, perhaps the battle with LS in KH FM II is a battle against a memory.
 

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That's been said numerous times,consider his existence unimportant.
His lines however are significant.
 

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thats exactly what captured me. and i think it was from one of your posts actually.
 

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Re: Everything We Know About Birth By Sleep | Unbirths So Far

It really barely matters what LS truely is.
However I agree that Lingering Sentiment is...
well... a lingering sentiment. A living memory.
I personally believe the Heart of Disney Castle
brought this memory to life similar to how
Sora's heart brought memories to life in
Castle Oblivion. It doesn't really matter
though so I don't even know why I bothered
to theorize about it.
 
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