Empty Worlds?

[KHHacker6595]

Its a shame that Square created such large and beautifully detailed worlds for them to be left with nobody to populate them. Throughout playing Dream Drop Distance, despite being immersed in the worlds and plots that make them up, I've noticed the complete lack of NPC's populating them. Even during the story for each world, you will rarely encounter a character outside of cutscenes. After completely a worlds story, the worlds will be completely empty from my knowledge. Has anybody encountered NPC's after completing the game, cause I sure as hell has not.

 

[LordPhantomhive]

There the moogles but that pretty much it from what I seen after beating each world.

Yeah the lifeless worlds has become a pet peeve for me and I hope they will work on this. It especially annoys me when they use crowd sound effects like the cheering and gasping in Notre Dame. Seriously what the point if you don't have a freaking crowd.:x

 

[KHJEDIKNIGHT]

At least they tried in KHII with the crowd cheering outside the Palace in Land of Dragons after Sora defeats Shan-Yu (granted they were actually trees). And in areas where no enemies appeared, at least your party members and in some cases (market square of Hollow Bastion, Santa's Workshop), a few NPCs could be seen walking around. But since then, we haven't really gotten anything. The most we have gotten are the invisible crowds of Olympus Coliseum in BbS and La Cite De Cloches in 3D.

 

[Lonbilly]

I'm hoping SE learns from Final fantasy XIII-2's handling of NPCs and uses that for the next KH game. Because that NPC system is nice, there's plenty of people walking around you can talk to them, and then whenever enemies appear they either run off or start attacking the enemies, too. But yeah, I loved how the worlds were designed in 3D, but it would have been perfected had there been actual people living in those worlds.

 

[ajmrowland]

At least they tried in KHII with the crowd cheering outside the Palace in Land of Dragons after Sora defeats Shan-Yu (granted they were actually trees). And in areas where no enemies appeared, at least your party members and in some cases (market square of Hollow Bastion, Santa's Workshop), a few NPCs could be seen walking around. But since then, we haven't really gotten anything. The most we have gotten are the invisible crowds of Olympus Coliseum in BbS and La Cite De Cloches in 3D.

actually, I think they were members of the army rather than trees.

 

[Seighart]

Yeah i tried to ignore the fact that people weren't around in KH3D because it almost ruined the game for me...

 

[Roro]

Yea BBS had the same problem, not many npc's in the world after you complete the story, its kinda sad, you come up with a big nice and detailed world but no one to populate it D: The city bells was especially irksome, its like "oh the festival of fools is today" *go into the town square in front of the cathedral...* okay who died?

In future games they should have npc's to make the worlds feel less empty and also have npc's that give you like sidequests or something too.

 

[Decrith]

Well in SE's defense, you can't expect NPCs to be running around when there are monsters out and about, I mean I remember that random NPC in KH, he went outside, and what happened? He turned into a heartless. LOL

 

[Katsagu]

Well since they are portable games, its acceptable, but i really want lots of cars wandering around on KH3

 

[rac7d]

Well in SE's defense, you can't expect NPCs to be running around when there are monsters out and about, I mean I remember that random NPC in KH, he went outside, and what happened? He turned into a heartless. LOL

Thast true every area is a battleground so people wouldnt be around. However, filling the world with npcs in certain area such as the a village portion of radiant garden or the first disctrict f traverse town, like in kh1 should be done. The worlds get pretty lonly on your own

 

[kupo1121]

- I thought The Grid wasn't bad considering it looked quite empty in Tron: Legacy and the guards that came up randomly were nice, so I didn't think The Gird was a bad example (like how they had Maleficent's Minions in Enchanted Dominion). I think some worlds could do with being empty like The Grid.
- Symphony of Sorcery wasn't bad either considering there weren't many NPC's per story in Fantasia.
- If they had Prankster's Paradise a mess, after the boys trashed the place and turned into donkeys, then it would have made sense for the place to be empty, and Monstro obviously should be empty as well.

There are a decent amount of worlds that weren't bad empty, though I cannot help but agree when it comes to Country of the Musketeers and Cite de Las Cloches, those places desperately needed NPCs

 

[Lonbilly]

You know, I could at least live without NPCs if in cutscenes we at least had a good-sized crowd, like for Notre Dame's epic fire event and for the Opera in Country of Musketeers because those were parts of the original plot. I definitely think The Grid could have used some as well since there were some people around town in the film, let alone Tron: Uprising, but that wasn't necessary.

Prankster's Paradise should have had more of the characters from the movie. Like the ones who were going to be in Days with Pinocchio and the gang. I could really care less about NPCs if they just actually had people in cutscenes.

 

[kupo1121]

You know, I could at least live without NPCs if in cutscenes

We all go back to that horrific day when we heard the crowd in Olympus Coliseum and Zack acknowledged them for Terra, and yet no crowd was to be seen <__<

 

[Sephiroth0812]

It's quite funny that people will petition for the inclusion of some nameless, useless characters that do not even add anything to the story while Nomura does not want to include even known and more important characters => case in question being Radiant Garden in BBS. Originally, Leon (Squall), Aerith, Yuffie, Cid, Cloud and Tifa were planned to be included, yet Nomura choose to take them out because the world would become "too crowded" with them being there alongside the apprentices of Ansem the Wise, Merlin and Scrooge McDuck. lol.

 

[Neko]

I think they just could have at least not had the main character's just disappear after cutscenes. I thought that was kind of ridiculous. They do not even re-appear anywhere after you beat the world. I have gotten use to the KH's lack of NPC's, but it would be nice to see that change. I was not really expecting NPC's in the RoS anyway.

 

[~Farore~]

That's also the problem I had with KH3D.

I loved the game, but in some aspects, it felt a little...hollow.

They really concentrated on the plot, which is cool, but if it wasn't for the cutscenes, there wouldn't be much to do, except grinding, petting your dream eaters and searching for treasures. You pretty much look at the worlds, say "oooh pretty" but yeah, that's about it.

I think that while dream eaters are really cute, since they don't talk at all, unlike Donald and Goofy, it didn't feel as lively as usual.

So while it's fun to try Kingdom Hearts with the pet tamer concept, I'm glad that the entire cast is back.

I'm sure the next Kingdom Hearts is going to have plenty of action, and I hope they don't forget the details, like the Npc's.

 

[C.C.]

It's quite funny that people will petition for the inclusion of some nameless, useless characters that do not even add anything to the story while Nomura does not want to include even known and more important characters => case in question being Radiant Garden in BBS. Originally, Leon (Squall), Aerith, Yuffie, Cid, Cloud and Tifa were planned to be included, yet Nomura choose to take them out because the world would become "too crowded" with them being there alongside the apprentices of Ansem the Wise, Merlin and Scrooge McDuck. lol.

I think people want random NPCs included not to add story but to add atmosphere. Like when a big event happens or something you can view the townsfolk's reactions and what not.

Personally I don't see it as a very big issue in a game like this. When I go to a new world I'm interested in interacting with the world's protagonist/antagonist and their supporting characters. I guess one could say that NPCs wondering around could add some life but the only reactions I care about are the ones from the characters I've grown to know before even picking up the game.

And I had no clue Nomura said that... Breaks my heart :'(

 

[Jadentheman]

I think they just could have at least not had the main character's just disappear after cutscenes. I thought that was kind of ridiculous. They do not even re-appear anywhere after you beat the world. I have gotten use to the KH's lack of NPC's, but it would be nice to see that change. I was not really expecting NPC's in the RoS anyway.

Well at least Nomura can make up an excuse to that: "Well since you're in the dream world...."

 

[Marx15]

In all actuality, it was said in-game that the worlds would awaken from the RoS once their respective Keyholes were sealed and whatnot. So going by that, Sora and Riku shouldn't really even be able to revisit the worlds after the story for said world is completed. So obviously there shouldn't be any NPC's around in the RoS once the worlds are completed.

But during the story of the worlds, yes there should've been. The lack of NPC's hasn't been as bad though as in BBS, as some have pointed out, when Zack told Terra the crowd was cheering for him, and when he looked there was no one there.....

 

[inverse K-blade7]

I remember in

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Traverse Town the second visit, when Beat and Rhyme said they would hold off the Nightmares for Riku, and then in gameplay theres NOTHING THERE.

That was just really awkward. Some scenes just need NPCs