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Re: Kingdom Hearts X[chi] Walkthrough Help
Nope, I'm using Treasure Trove as well.
And Solo, I thought it might've been that, but take a look at this:
So I dunno what happened before but apparently my normal Base Lux should be 78 and not whatever it was before. Doesn't seem to be skill/damage related.
Nope, I'm using Treasure Trove as well.
And Solo, I thought it might've been that, but take a look at this:
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So I dunno what happened before but apparently my normal Base Lux should be 78 and not whatever it was before. Doesn't seem to be skill/damage related.
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Re: Kingdom Hearts X[chi] Walkthrough Help
That's interesting. Really interesting. That really is the same phenomenon that I've been observing.
I tested 8 consecutive 1 BP attacks on a L202 sub, out of LUT and with 1657% gain. Bonus damage was 0 and chain damage increase was negligible. These are my findings.
1st attack: damage 1544624, base 216, total 3580
2nd attack: damage 1573241, base 216, total 3580
3rd attack: damage 1575923, base 216, total 3580
4th attack: damage 1482638, base 216, total 3580
5th attack: damage 1325613, base 216, total 3580
6th attack: damage 1504718, base 216, total 3580
7th attack: damage 1531392, base 216, total 3580
8th attack: damage 1930472, base 216, total 3580
I have one damage outlier there on the 8th attack, being 1.9 million as opposed to 1.4 to 1.5 million, but I still made the same amount of Lux.
That's interesting. Really interesting. That really is the same phenomenon that I've been observing.
I tested 8 consecutive 1 BP attacks on a L202 sub, out of LUT and with 1657% gain. Bonus damage was 0 and chain damage increase was negligible. These are my findings.
1st attack: damage 1544624, base 216, total 3580
2nd attack: damage 1573241, base 216, total 3580
3rd attack: damage 1575923, base 216, total 3580
4th attack: damage 1482638, base 216, total 3580
5th attack: damage 1325613, base 216, total 3580
6th attack: damage 1504718, base 216, total 3580
7th attack: damage 1531392, base 216, total 3580
8th attack: damage 1930472, base 216, total 3580
I have one damage outlier there on the 8th attack, being 1.9 million as opposed to 1.4 to 1.5 million, but I still made the same amount of Lux.
Re: Kingdom Hearts X[chi] Walkthrough Help
Just woke up and there is so many numbers on this thread.
But I don't think you guys have mentioned that the higher level the raid boss the higher the base Lux.
Can we all agree to do this:
Tomorrow, after midnight today, we all do 2 x 1BP, 1 x 2BP and 2 x 3 BP hit on a normal boss from level 80~90. Then again on a normal boss on level 150-160. Keep your attack and assist deck and the skills constant for all attacks, your boosts as well.
Report on your stats, the turns you lasted, total damage dealt and the Lux base.
Just woke up and there is so many numbers on this thread.
But I don't think you guys have mentioned that the higher level the raid boss the higher the base Lux.
Can we all agree to do this:
Tomorrow, after midnight today, we all do 2 x 1BP, 1 x 2BP and 2 x 3 BP hit on a normal boss from level 80~90. Then again on a normal boss on level 150-160. Keep your attack and assist deck and the skills constant for all attacks, your boosts as well.
Report on your stats, the turns you lasted, total damage dealt and the Lux base.
I could have sworn I replied to Zero Rock's post... *rummage rummage*
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THERE. On another thread, haha. How did it even end up there!? <_< (Edit: Kaz must have missed this one when moving posts.)
For the benefit of those who find it hard to reach higher-level subs, allow me to help out by comparing the base Lux given by subs that show up during the next LUT (7pm) and the 2-hour LUT; there's bound to be differences in sub level.
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THERE. On another thread, haha. How did it even end up there!? <_< (Edit: Kaz must have missed this one when moving posts.)
For the benefit of those who find it hard to reach higher-level subs, allow me to help out by comparing the base Lux given by subs that show up during the next LUT (7pm) and the 2-hour LUT; there's bound to be differences in sub level.
^ Haha, that post contains a reply to TemariDesert on a different related matter.
I've done some experiments with subs between level 273 and 303. Here are the results.
Note that the base Lux increases with sub level. Another interesting observation is that I make more Lux with 3 x1 attacks than with 1 x4 attack.
In the L273 experiment, I'm not very sure as to why the base Lux on my second x2.5 attack was higher.
Note that the base Lux increases with sub level. Another interesting observation is that I make more Lux with 3 x1 attacks than with 1 x4 attack.
In the L273 experiment, I'm not very sure as to why the base Lux on my second x2.5 attack was higher.
Soooooooooooooo, here's another theory (kinda) on what's going on: there's a fixed base lux (which increases with boss lv) awarded for a certain damage range ...
These are not the actual number, but for example 1,000,000 to 1,500,000 give 50 base; 1,500,000 to 2,500,000 give 100 base; etc. So it might be better to stick to 1BP or 2BP attacks if the 3BP attack can't go high enough.
Thoughts?
These are not the actual number, but for example 1,000,000 to 1,500,000 give 50 base; 1,500,000 to 2,500,000 give 100 base; etc. So it might be better to stick to 1BP or 2BP attacks if the 3BP attack can't go high enough.
Thoughts?
Ah....just tested it out myself:
1BP: 301 base LUX (same result for 3 tries, each giving different damage but same base)
3BP: 753 base LUX if I lasted less than 6 turns. 904 when I managed to last 6 turns.
1BP: 301 base LUX (same result for 3 tries, each giving different damage but same base)
3BP: 753 base LUX if I lasted less than 6 turns. 904 when I managed to last 6 turns.
Yeah, I make more LUX with 1BP attacks. I garbled this out in English in the RB chat and some other people tried it to varied results. Some seem to make more with the 3BP still.
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Hmm...there are some party members of mine that still earn more with 3BP. Although we are deducing that this is because they are equipping the advantage keyblade. I'm still using Lady Luck right now.
Hmm...there are some party members of mine that still earn more with 3BP. Although we are deducing that this is because they are equipping the advantage keyblade. I'm still using Lady Luck right now.
My base LUX is at 67 (now 71). And I still get that same base LUX at 1BP, 2BP and 3BP. It makes no diference to me. I see the math you guys did but to me it all gives me the same amount.
The only diference is that I make 1383 (now 1468; see below) LUX today comparing to the 590 LUX of yesterday. And my deck got switched around very slightly.
Not concerned over the amount of LUX I make but the fact I make the same no mather how much BP I use.
The only thing influencing my base LUX is the level of the subs/normal raid bosses
3BP, 2BP and 1 BP:
The only diference is that I make 1383 (now 1468; see below) LUX today comparing to the 590 LUX of yesterday. And my deck got switched around very slightly.
Not concerned over the amount of LUX I make but the fact I make the same no mather how much BP I use.
The only thing influencing my base LUX is the level of the subs/normal raid bosses
3BP, 2BP and 1 BP:
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Ok I give up analyzing.
With a fully boosted Speed deck, I changed my keyblade to Olympia, which is the current advantage keyblade. And the base LUX is still the same result as equipping Lady Luck.
Edit: Didn't realize that I have been posting in the wrong thread.
Ok I give up analyzing.
With a fully boosted Speed deck, I changed my keyblade to Olympia, which is the current advantage keyblade. And the base LUX is still the same result as equipping Lady Luck.
Edit: Didn't realize that I have been posting in the wrong thread.
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Because you moved your post, I should have moved mine as well as it was written as a reply to yours... but I'll just quote it:
In addition, I did another experiment. I did 10 consecutive x4 attacks on a sub and here are the results; I'll just include the total damage (first value) and base Lux (second value).
8010548 / 899
6133375 / 599
6120852 / 599
5723932 / 599
6354420 / 599
6470167 / 749
7067479 / 749
7012448 / 749
6997419 / 749
7816408 / 749
I think what Some Guy said was right. There are damage ranges for base Lux gain... but I don't think we'd gain anything even if we figured out those ranges. XD
In addition, I did another experiment. I did 10 consecutive x4 attacks on a sub and here are the results; I'll just include the total damage (first value) and base Lux (second value).
8010548 / 899
6133375 / 599
6120852 / 599
5723932 / 599
6354420 / 599
6470167 / 749
7067479 / 749
7012448 / 749
6997419 / 749
7816408 / 749
I think what Some Guy said was right. There are damage ranges for base Lux gain... but I don't think we'd gain anything even if we figured out those ranges. XD
So what I get from what you said, and correct me if I'm wrong, because I do so little damage as x4 or x1, the damage itself is contained in a range that gives me the same amount of base LUX, like damage below 1,5k (or something) gives the same amount, whether I make 60000 or 100000. Other than glitch, that is the only explanation that seems plausible to my situation.
This is most likely the case. As you can see from my findings above, the range could be pretty huge, spanning over 1 million points of damage. It's possible that 60,000 and 100,000 fall within the same range, thus giving you the same amount of base Lux.
If that's the case, you'll want to stick with x1 attacks. You'll gain more Lux per BP spent that way.
Okay, I think that's really what's up. I just did a regular raid boss and a sub without LUT. This were the results:
Normal Raid boss: x5 free attack (Left), x1 (Right)
Sub boss: x5 free attack (Left), x1 (Right)
Not sure if the attack bonus make it on the stats but I managed to get double base LUX that way. I guess the harder the boss get, the lesser I can strike and the lower damage I make which in turn downgrades my attack to a lower range of LUX that oh so happens to give me the same LUX amount as my weakest attack (the 1BP one).
I think 1BP for the stronger raid bosses it is for me then.
EDIT: This one limit is at 1,600,000 I figured. I did x5 with ~1,800,000 of damage again and the base went up to 12 LUX. I did x4 and did ~1,499,000 and it gave me base 6 LUX.
Normal Raid boss: x5 free attack (Left), x1 (Right)
Sub boss: x5 free attack (Left), x1 (Right)
Not sure if the attack bonus make it on the stats but I managed to get double base LUX that way. I guess the harder the boss get, the lesser I can strike and the lower damage I make which in turn downgrades my attack to a lower range of LUX that oh so happens to give me the same LUX amount as my weakest attack (the 1BP one).
I think 1BP for the stronger raid bosses it is for me then.
EDIT: This one limit is at 1,600,000 I figured. I did x5 with ~1,800,000 of damage again and the base went up to 12 LUX. I did x4 and did ~1,499,000 and it gave me base 6 LUX.
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i can't stand this new system i had just set up a run for the old lux mechanic when this was announced to earn 25000 a day and only play during lut 3 times a week and they set this thing in motion i feel like quitting the game for a while this might f**k me over too much i feel like waiting this out
There is only a problem of having 3 less 0s in your score.
If anything, it helps weaker players a lot. Allowing them to earn the minimum base value, rather than an amount lower than it. Plus just they can just earn LUX with 1BP hits as well, allowing them to earn more with fewer potions.
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