Could Ventus' original trio be with Skuld and Ephemera?

[Strawberry]

Since this whole "Ventus is a dandelion" theory has started, could Ventus had been originally been in a trio with Skuld and Ephemera? before or during the whole get together formed by Master Ava?

How this theory works, Ventus is actually from Daybreak Town, and is best friends with fellow trainees Skuld and Ephemera and maybe Chirithy, and is from the past. Master Ava forms the group known as "The Dandelions" to avoid fighting in the keyblade war, during this something could had happened where Skuld and Ephemera ended up in the Realm of Sleep, while Ventus ended up in the realm of darkness.
this is a theory i heared. Then somehow Master Xehanort finds Ventus there and takes him to the future, or he ends up in the future with all his memories wiped? (somehow) to be trained by MX,

What are your thoughts? i think these theories are really good. dont forget, this IS NOT my theory.

 

[Ballad of Caius]

Re: Could Ventus' origanal trio be with Skuld and Ephemera?

I find it interesting, but this is assuming Ventus is from the KHx era and not originally from present day. Also, remember that Nomura said in an interview that Maleficent and Ventus will be characters that will further the KHUx mythos, so perhaps he was referring to present day characters interacting with KHx characters...?

To Occam Razor what I said: Ven may not be a Dandelion and only meets up with KHx era characters because he's asleep and somehow found his way into the Sleeping World version of Daybreak Town.

 

[Dandelion]

Re: Could Ventus' origanal trio be with Skuld and Ephemera?

I find it interesting, but this is assuming Ventus is from the KHx era and not originally from present day. Also, remember that Nomura said in an interview that Maleficent and Ventus will be characters that will further the KHUx mythos, so perhaps he was referring to present day characters interacting with KHx characters...?

To Occam Razor what I said: Ven may not be a Dandelion and only meets up with KHx era characters because he's asleep and somehow found his way into the Sleeping World version of Daybreak Town.

Still a lot of assumptions for an occam's razor, anything speculative about the situation, if there even is one, is just as hypothetical as anything else and therefore as likely. Or unlikely.

Basically, too soon to say anything but it's fun to see everyone speculating about something other than Xehanort.

 

[Ballad of Caius]

Re: Could Ventus' origanal trio be with Skuld and Ephemera?

Still a lot of assumptions for an occam's razor, anything speculative about the situation, if there even is one, is just as hypothetical as anything else and therefore as likely. Or unlikely.

Basically, too soon to say anything but it's fun to see everyone speculating about something other than Xehanort.

My bad. By Occam's Razor I meant to summarize my post. xD But yeah, at this point in time, anything is a given. Even the identity of the other Seekers of Darkness. It could be the Foretellers, or not.

 

[Zettaflare]

Re: Could Ventus' origanal trio be with Skuld and Ephemera?

I find it interesting, but this is assuming Ventus is from the KHx era and not originally from present day. Also, remember that Nomura said in an interview that Maleficent and Ventus will be characters that will further the KHUx mythos, so perhaps he was referring to present day characters interacting with KHx characters...?

To Occam Razor what I said: Ven may not be a Dandelion and only meets up with KHx era characters because he's asleep and somehow found his way into the Sleeping World version of Daybreak Town.

Maleficent is part of the chi mythos? Does this imply she was around during Ephemera's time and the Keyblade War?

 

[Dandelion]

Re: Could Ventus' origanal trio be with Skuld and Ephemera?

Maleficent is part of the chi mythos? Does this imply she was around during Ephemera's time and the Keyblade War?

Did you miss the X secret ending?

 

[Zettaflare]

Re: Could Ventus' origanal trio be with Skuld and Ephemera?

Did you miss the X secret ending?

Yes actually. First time I heard about it. Was Maleficent confirmed to be tied to the Keyblade war in the ending?

 

[Dandelion]

Re: Could Ventus' origanal trio be with Skuld and Ephemera?

Yes actually. First time I heard about it. Was Maleficent confirmed to be tied to the Keyblade war in the ending?

I was actually asking. That's kind of addressed in the secret ending, I'm not sure if you're avoiding spoilers but the videos are fairly easy to find, but

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she's involved in the world of X, though to what extent is currently unknown.

 

[Dreaded_Desire62]

Re: Could Ventus' origanal trio be with Skuld and Ephemera?

Did you miss the X secret ending?

Do we even know if the Keyblade War took place a hundred years ago? I am not sure if this is right, but didn't the evil fairy put the castle into a century's slumber once the princess poked her finger on the spindle in the original? I am not sure if that would play a part in Chi though or in Kingdom Hearts in general.

 

[Luxu]

Hmmm, maybe the Daybreak Trio is a Quartet instead of a trio? Ventus, Player, Skuld, Ephemera. I also have a theory that Ventus took the place of the Player in Unchained, to fill that spot Skuld and Ephemera had when we left.

I also theorize, that maybe the Player broke out earlier than the Dandelions because our training was already complete, we are on level with the Foretellers. Maybe that made the Player break out of Unchained at a far quicker rate compared to the others? Or perhaps the shining of Kingdom Hearts made the Player break free faster?

 

[Ballad of Caius]

Re: Could Ventus' origanal trio be with Skuld and Ephemera?

Do we even know if the Keyblade War took place a hundred years ago? I am not sure if this is right, but didn't the evil fairy put the castle into a century's slumber once the princess poked her finger on the spindle in the original? I am not sure if that would play a part in Chi though or in Kingdom Hearts in general.

The Keyblade War took place more than a hundred years ago. Perhaps even a millennia ago. All we know is that it took place in the distant past of the KINGDOM HEARTS timeline.

 

[Alpha Baymax]

Well, Ventus being a Dandelion can still hold some ground even if he did shift era's. Remember the Realm of Darkness? time moves differently in that world. With that knowledge we can assume the following...

Ventus is involved with the Dandelions ---> Circumstances end up with him in the Realm of Darkness ---> Xehanort helps him out of the Realm of Darkness/Ventus gets out of the Realm of Darkness and is found by Xehanort.

It'd be a relatable link with 0.2 seeing as how Aqua is currently in the Realm of Darkness. She's reliving what Ventus has hyothetically already gone through just under different circumstances...

 

[Ballad of Caius]

Well, Ventus being a Dandelion can still hold some ground even if he did shift era's. Remember the Realm of Darkness? time moves differently in that world. With that knowledge we can assume the following...

Ventus is involved with the Dandelions ---> Circumstances end up with him in the Realm of Darkness ---> Xehanort helps him out of the Realm of Darkness/Ventus gets out of the Realm of Darkness and is found by Xehanort.

It'd be a relatable link with 0.2 seeing as how Aqua is currently in the Realm of Darkness. She's reliving what Ventus has hyothetically already gone through just under different circumstances...

Someone also suggested that the Realm of Sleep could be used as a time-traveling mechanism of sorts, so it's possible that Ventus, assuming he's a Dandelion, ended up in an amnesiac state and found himself in the Badlands, where MX took him under his wing.

 

[VoidGear.]

Someone also suggested that the Realm of Sleep could be used as a time-traveling mechanism of sorts, so it's possible that Ventus, assuming he's a Dandelion, ended up in an amnesiac state and found himself in the Badlands, where MX took him under his wing.

B-but...
What about this "in order to travel time one needs to leave the body behind" stuff? Or am I mixing stuff up here?

 

[Deleted member]

B-but...
What about this "in order to travel time one needs to leave the body behind" stuff? Or am I mixing stuff up here?

You're mixing stuff up. They're referring to how in the Realm of Sleep real time does not flow, so, in a sense, someone could enter it at certain point in time, and then leave it at a different time. In KH3D, for example, Sora and Riku enter the Realm of Sleep in the era of KH1, but they leave it and re-enter the RoL/RoB in the era of post-KHII. So they're suggesting that Ventus could enter the RoS during the Fairytale Era, but leave it and re-enter the waking world during BBS time.

This is a separate thing from time-traveling in the YMX sense.

 

[Ballad of Caius]

You're mixing stuff up. They're referring to how in the Realm of Sleep real time does not flow, so, in a sense, someone could enter it at certain point in time, and then leave it at a different time. In KH3D, for example, Sora and Riku enter the Realm of Sleep in the era of KH1, but they leave it and re-enter the RoL/RoB in the era of post-KHII. So they're suggesting that Ventus could enter the RoS during the Fairytale Era, but leave it and re-enter the waking world during BBS time.

This is a separate thing from time-traveling in the YMX sense.

Thanks for the more elaborate explanation, Audo. xD Think of it this way: the conventional way of time-traveling in KINGDOM HEARTS is limited to specific points in time where your heart has been. Meanwhile, using the Realm of Sleep is like a more ambitious time machine.

IF Skuld and Ephemera end up in the present time of the KH timeline, then it's possible for the Realm of Sleep to be used as a sort of "Corridor of Time".

 

[VoidGear.]

You're mixing stuff up. They're referring to how in the Realm of Sleep real time does not flow, so, in a sense, someone could enter it at certain point in time, and then leave it at a different time. In KH3D, for example, Sora and Riku enter the Realm of Sleep in the era of KH1, but they leave it and re-enter the RoL/RoB in the era of post-KHII. So they're suggesting that Ventus could enter the RoS during the Fairytale Era, but leave it and re-enter the waking world during BBS time.

This is a separate thing from time-traveling in the YMX sense.

Oh, I see. That does make more sense to me now.
Thanks for the explanation.

 

[Ballad of Caius]

Oh, I see. That does make more sense to me now.
Thanks for the explanation.

Granted, if the Realm of Sleep does end up working as a time traveling mechanism, then it renders completely useless Nomura's take on it... =/