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The only issue with Star Wars is that Lucasarts gave exclusive rights of the franchise to EA which makes their inclusion much more difficuilt than Marvel as Marvel Games is fairly lienient with third-party collaborations as shown by Fortnite.
The question is how much legal drama does SE want to put up with?
Disney owns Kingdom Hearts. At worst there's creative differences but it's evident that Marvel Games are more lienient with the treatement of their characters and worlds compared to Disney-proper.
Those exclusivity rights seem to only cover new Star Wars console games. Nothing about their deal excludes crossovers and mobile games. If that were so, there wouldn’t be the SW mobile games on the market by Disney and their other partners, or everything in Fortnite lol
And it seems even the console game thing is fairly loose since Tt Games is making LEGO Star Wars.
I can't begin to properly express my disdain for the idea of Marvel and Star Wars in KH.
Those properties are just too damn big to be done right in any capacity. Either one could easily occupy multiple KH games in their entirety and still have more leftover. There's no way a single world or whatever could capture what fans want from these characters/stories. They already have enough trouble making that happen with singular Disney films.
Also, these two franchises are literally everywhere and I already can't stand it as it is. Please just let me have KH.
Big Hero 6 is about as much as I think we should ever get, a standalone work that doesn't invite and entire multiverse of other properties.
Let's not forget, SE has been handed over Marvel property before, actually the biggest money making IP they had. It was a total shitshow. Yes, any gamer, casual or cringe, know that has nothing to do with KH, but any C-level officer worth their salt will know to bar access to this specific IP to a partner who has caused large financial losses, while granting concessions to the ones that proved liquid and profitable.
I'd pin the blame on their Europe execs for that. The way they operate things on their Western front is way different from the way things are ran on the Japanese side. I can see Marvel being hesitant to work with Crystal Dynamics again, but if KH were ever thrown a bone on that front, it would be championed by SE Japan, Disney Japan, and DCP execs which I doubt Marvel could easily reject based on what happened with CD, a completely different studio.
Also Marvel didn't lose anything (big) out of their deal. SE paid the hefty licensing fee so Marvel made their money on the massive launch sales. Of course, the lack of meaty dividends from consistent microtransactions would probably be something to think about, but eh...SE's really the only one suffering from this whole thing.
Disney stuck with EA even after the controversy surrounding Star Wars Battlefront and Battlefront II. I don't think they care much about the failures of their partners as long as they get the revenue from initial sales.
I just want Spider-Man in KH dude
Have him be a party member with his MvC moveset or something, reuse the Web of Shadows plotline if ya have to
Please
I jusr want Sora and Spider-Man together
Just do it dammit
I WANT S P I D E R - M A N
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A Spider Man themed Keyblade would be pretty sweet. The transformation could give Sora a suit complete with Web Slinging and Spidey sense
They only own the film rights to Spider-Man.I wonder what Sony would say about it, honestly. They still own Spiderman, right?
]Ah, that seems to be very interesting! As there's different branches of Star Wars games that EA doesn't make, so I guess Disney just juggles which companies makes which specific amount of games.
It seems as though things are shaky on that front at times. Didn't the Avengers game flop? Well anyway, I'm sure that Nomura would find a way to work around things if the need would ever arise. I guess we'll never know till it does happen.
As the old saying goes: "It's all about the money." I remember the whole controversy surrounding the modern Battlefront games, and I must say, it was quite a doozy!
I wonder what Sony would say about it, honestly. They still own Spiderman, right?
Not that exclusive. Aspyr has been porting older SW games to various platforms for a while now. I have the podracing game on Switch & EA's name doesn't come up anywhere. Disney Infinity had SW content added well after EA acquired the license.The only issue with Star Wars is that Lucasarts gave exclusive rights of the franchise to EA which makes their inclusion much more difficuilt than Marvel as Marvel Games is fairly lienient with third-party collaborations as shown by Fortnite.
Yeah, exactly. I don't think it is as strict as it is made out to be. It isn't like EA is making a SW game every year either, so they probably have stipulations in the contract to allow more flexibility among other partners as long as it doesn't step on EA's toes.
Disney isn't going to leave money on the table, either. Fortnite, LEGO, their mobile games--that is all hugely profitable for them and at the end of the day they are the licenser. They have control over who gets to do what with their property.
Not that exclusive. Aspyr has been porting older SW games to various platforms for a while now. I have the podracing game on Switch & EA's name doesn't come up anywhere. Disney Infinity had SW content added well after EA acquired the license.
True, there are games like Disney INFINITY, Lego Star Wars and ports of older Star Wars games but I just don't see that being equivalent to adding Star Wars in Kingdom Hearts.
Disney is indeed the licenser, but unless there's a clause for Star Wars to be non-exclusive in a case-by-case basis, I just see the likeliness of Star Wars being in Kingdom Hearts to be very low for now.
Why do you not? The equivalent of adding Star Wars to KH would be the exact same as it being added into Fortnite. Keep in mind that Fortnite has canon lore to Episode 9.
Why did you have to go and remind me that happened?
I could see that potentially happening with Star Wars, seeing there's primarily only one take on the main story. Star Wars only has like two canons, and most things made from that property feed into the same continuity be it "Canon" or "Legends".I personally don’t want Star Wars or Marvel in Kingdom Hearts as I feel that if they appear in the series given how big a fanbase both have and how popular they are I feel that Disney would push Sora and the others aside and give all the spotlight to Marvel and Star Wars and I don’t want to have a repeat of what happened in KH3 where the movie becomes more important than the actual plot of the game.
However Marvel on the other hand is super malleable the characters have been reinvented countless times over the decades they've existed. If there ever were to be an incorporation of them, I'd imagine they'd be KH original versions/takes on them. Sure I'd imagine they'd be primarily based of the movie counter parts, but there are tones of sources they could draw upon to make their own version of Marvel's New York.
That was just total BS just like all of Rise of Skywalker.Why did you have to go and remind me that happened?
Not sure about Star Wars being accessed through Holocrons, but I do like the idea of using comics to access the Marvel Multiverse.I’ve been a huge fan of the idea of treating Star Wars and Marvel like Winnie the Pooh. Have the lore already established but modified to fit Sora within it. Marvel can use comics and Star Wars can use Holocrons, add the datascape to the mix and viola.
I'd personally have gone with VHS, DVD or just a TV screen for Star Wars. But generally i am a fan of using the 100 Acres Wood mechanic for them. Have them be worlds of fiction Sora and Co can access.I’ve been a huge fan of the idea of treating Star Wars and Marvel like Winnie the Pooh. Have the lore already established but modified to fit Sora within it. Marvel can use comics and Star Wars can use Holocrons, add the datascape to the mix and viola.