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Janus Q

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i honestly would like BBSV2 to be a full video game. Aqua had to do more then just walk a line in the Realm of Darkness, I'd like to think she tried to help those who were lost in the darkness find their way back to the light. who knows, she could have met Mickey in the RoD after Kingdom Hearts.
 

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I was thinking this last night. the name BBSv2.

3 scenarios.
Aqua.
Riku.
Mickey.

Of course this all occurs over the time-line of bbs to kh2. And then after you beat all 3 scenarios, secret final episode!!!

It just made some sense to me a little, I mean those 3 characters are obviously the ones to be focused on here.
 

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Riku wasn't in RoD very long. Plus he's already been playable in CoM & DDD, so it seems almost overkill.

I used to think Apprentice Xehanort would be the 3rd character but already DDD killed that chance -_-

i honestly would like BBSV2 to be a full video game. Aqua had to do more then just walk a line in the Realm of Darkness,
I think the mere presence of Castle of Dreams confirms it'll be a game. KH1 said worlds were destroyed, not pulled into RoD. Retconning this & showing CoD only makes sense for 1 reason: they needed worlds to pad out the length of a game. CoD wouldn't be necessary in a movie or in a FF4TAY styled chapters game.
 
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I would hardly call including a main character playably "overkill". Also, they need to further explain his period of abscence.

I've thought of AX being a playable character, but going through experiments seems like it wouldn't have much gameplay factor. Maybe Xemnas, though.
 

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Yeah, I was thinking that an Organization member as a playable character could be very interesting indeed. While Xemnas would be awesome, I don't know if they would give us full reign over one of the game's major antagonists. I know he was playable in Days' Mission Mode, but still.

Maybe Axel could be playable? You'd get more insight into his and Saix's plans, the Organization as a whole and some of the mysteries surrounding Xemnas. But then again, Axel wasn't really 'good' before Days, when his scenario would most likely take place... I dunno.

Still, the most likely scenarios I see are Aqua, Riku and Mickey.
 

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Yeah, I was thinking that an Organization member as a playable character could be very interesting indeed. While Xemnas would be awesome, I don't know if they would give us full reign over one of the game's major antagonists. I know he was playable in Days' Mission Mode, but still.

Maybe Axel could be playable? You'd get more insight into his and Saix's plans, the Organization as a whole and some of the mysteries surrounding Xemnas. But then again, Axel wasn't really 'good' before Days, when his scenario would most likely take place... I dunno.

Still, the most likely scenarios I see are Aqua, Riku and Mickey.
Well, almost all plot holes about Org XIII were explained in Days. Which means an Organization member as a playable character wouldn't help fill in the blanks of the KH plotline...

That makes an Organization memeber less likely to be playable, right?
 

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Im taking It KH3, its going to be another Diablo 3, Another Toy story 3, another Duke Nukem 3 along with other stuff that took ten years b4 they were realeased : (
 
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Well, almost all plot holes about Org XIII were explained in Days. Which means an Organization member as a playable character wouldn't help fill in the blanks of the KH plotline...

That makes an Organization memeber less likely to be playable, right?

Fair point, a lot of mysteries surrounding Org XIII were cleared up in Days. However, there are still a lot more questions to be answered. Like how did Xemnas know that Ven was in CO? Why was he so determined to find him? Does Xemnas have some memories from Terra and/or MX? Et cetera, et cetera.

Of course, the majority of the mysteries that remain are from the beginnings of the Organization or, more specifically, just Xemnas. A lot of questions could just as easily be answered by a couple of cutscenes, maybe in DDD. So yeah, less probable for a playable Org member. Still a possibility, but... *trails off*

Im taking It KH3, its going to be another Diablo 3, Another Toy story 3, another Duke Nukem 3 along with other stuff that took ten years b4 they were realeased : (

To be fair to Toy Story, Pixar were under a contract with Disney that said they had to come up with completely original movies, i.e. no sequels. When Disney finally bought Pixar in 2006, their new contract gave them free-reign to do what they wanted, really, so they immediately started on TS3. A Pixar film takes at least four years, meaning it was ready for 2010.

...Just felt like ranting.
 

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About the whole "extra scenarios" thing in BbSv2. I don't think we need extra scenarios. Personally, if we got JUST Aqua I would be happy and I think others should be too. People are too caught up on this whole "extra scenarios" thing after BbS and I think they might expect too much because honestly, like I HIGHLY doubt that any Org. people will ever have their own scenario (Roxas is exempt for obvious reasons).
 

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They could easily stretch a full game with just Aqua in RoD, but I think there will be multiple scenarios (if BBSv2 is actually a game, which is most likely). First off, they wouldn't call it Birth by Sleep Volume II if it didn't at least share some similarities with the first. (Of course, the name can change, but let's take it that it won't.) I just think that it'll probably follow the same kind of path as BBS by having three scenarios, just to make it feel more like a continuation of that game. ...If that makes sense.

Also, I think more scenarios are likely because, as Nomura said...

Presently there are 4 main untold stories to consider: "the period of the King's absence", "the period of Riku's absence", "Roxas's time in Organization XIII" and "Xehanort's past". In this case, the story of "the period of the King's absence" is set in the realm of darkness. I am examining a way to tell these 4 stories so I might be able to find a way to tell them soon.

(Source: Director's Secret Report XIII)

The last two stories have already been told in Days and BBS, respectively. Both of those were considered important enough to warrant their own game. Placed at equal importance, Nomura also mentions Riku and Mickey. As of yet, these stories have not been told. We know that there are only two games before KH3; DDD and the 'Mystery Title' (most probably BBSv2). I can't see them squeezing the two stories in DDD (maybe some of Riku's), so that just leaves BBSv2.
 

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It would seem like Riku's absence would require a separate set of worlds, which generally means a separate game.
 

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Since Nomura has stated that 3D and the Mystery Title are the last games before KHIII, I highly doubt that.
 

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Then how does the Riku scenario work? Aqua & Mickey are likely to have the entirety of their games in RoD, thus sharing the same set of playable worlds as was done in CoM, BBS & DDD.

Castle of Dreams
Beast's Castle
Dwarf Woodlands
Pride Lands
Enchanted Dominion
Land of Dragons
Dalmatians world
Dumbo world
Bambi world
City of Bells?

Riku wasn't in RoD very long & time pasts slower there so its not long enough for a full scenario. Perhaps he returned there in KH2 but the worlds would either been restored or trapped in RoS so there ain't much to do. Riku scenario pretty much requires a near completely independent set of of worlds:

Traverse Town
Monstro
Neverland
Beast's Castle not ruined
Castle Oblivion
Twilight Town
Destiny Islands
Hollow Bastion
Land of Dragons not ruined
Agrabah

It sticks out so much from the other 2 & requires so much extra work for the developers it might as well be a separate game.
 

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About the whole "extra scenarios" thing in BbSv2. I don't think we need extra scenarios. Personally, if we got JUST Aqua I would be happy and I think others should be too. People are too caught up on this whole "extra scenarios" thing after BbS and I think they might expect too much because honestly, like I HIGHLY doubt that any Org. people will ever have their own scenario (Roxas is exempt for obvious reasons).
i'd be very happy with just aqua, but as those above me stated i at least see a mickey in there :/ tho i'd rather just have aqua.

"the period of Riku's absence"
how can he have an "absence" when he was only in the RoD til CoM started and he was working with Diz mostly thru days so...that dont really leave much time for a riku one does it? >.>
 

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They could easily stretch a full game with just Aqua in RoD, but I think there will be multiple scenarios (if BBSv2 is actually a game, which is most likely). First off, they wouldn't call it Birth by Sleep Volume II if it didn't at least share some similarities with the first. (Of course, the name can change, but let's take it that it won't.) I just think that it'll probably follow the same kind of path as BBS by having three scenarios, just to make it feel more like a continuation of that game. ...If that makes sense.

Also, I think more scenarios are likely because, as Nomura said...



(Source: Director's Secret Report XIII)

The last two stories have already been told in Days and BBS, respectively. Both of those were considered important enough to warrant their own game. Placed at equal importance, Nomura also mentions Riku and Mickey. As of yet, these stories have not been told. We know that there are only two games before KH3; DDD and the 'Mystery Title' (most probably BBSv2). I can't see them squeezing the two stories in DDD (maybe some of Riku's), so that just leaves BBSv2.

DDD looked as though it would have more of Xehanort's past in it, with the scene of Apprentice Xehanort. So I'd still be leaning towards BBSv2 for Riku/Mickey.

how can he have an "absence" when he was only in the RoD til CoM started and he was working with Diz mostly thru days so...that dont really leave much time for a riku one does it? >.>

Very little was seen of Riku during KH1, Days, and KH2. There's a lot of stuff he was doing that we didn't see which could be showcased.
 

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Very little was seen of Riku during KH1, Days, and KH2. There's a lot of stuff he was doing that we didn't see which could be showcased.
:/ yeah but how can you make a story of that? it'd be all random cause we know what happened to riku near the end, what wold they do? just skip from kh1 after ansem takes his body to when he shuts the DTD? then from the ending of CoM to him in days?
i dont see that being very interesting >.>
 

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:/ yeah but how can you make a story of that? it'd be all random cause we know what happened to riku near the end, what wold they do? just skip from kh1 after ansem takes his body to when he shuts the DTD? then from the ending of CoM to him in days?
i dont see that being very interesting >.>
BBSv2 looks like it'll jump around enough. XD They could just do after COM to when he reaches TWTNW at the end of KH2.
 

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Very little was seen of Riku during KH1, Days, and KH2. There's a lot of stuff he was doing that we didn't see which could be showcased.

Which could be a great DLC when Kingdom Hearts is released on the PS3.
 
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