TV ► BBC Sherlock - "It's never the fall."

[Evello]

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The actual mystery was underwhelming, but the episode was a hysterical tease directed toward the show's rabid fan base so I loved it.

Sherlock and Moriarty laughing on the roof together is one of the greatest moments ever put on television

 

[Nyangoro]

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[video=youtube;xhjIsu7n6bI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhjIsu7n6bI[/video]

Huh, so I guess the person was Milverton after all. Honestly, the main reason I thought it couldn't be him was because they made it seem like he orchestrated John's attempted murder. A murderer, Milverton is not. This trailer though? 100% Milverton.

 

[Jesus]

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Dang episode two was gooood. Dem Sherlock feels though

 

[Finland]

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where can i watch the second one for free omg ;-;

i found the first but didnt find the second

 

[Space Cowboy]

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Miss me ?

But yeah, the directing and general way this episode was produced was phenomenal. Loved those set pieces.

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

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HAHAHA diddly

For a minute this episode was getting way too overdramatic. I don't have any desire to talk about the episode's plot, though. It was a fantastic episode.

That ending was gold. It only took four minutes.

 

[Jesus]

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Link me you beautiful man

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

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There aren't links up yet. The episode just finished airing.

 

[Jesus]

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Oh yeah I forgot to account for the time differences
IN TIME

 

[gelandporn]

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It was pretty predictable, saw almost all of the plot points coming well before they happened. But still one of the best episodes in the series for the acting alone.

I mean, the whole Mary thing was entirely expected, they sprinkled way too many visual clues and other hints in the first couple episodes which indicated she had some kind of a secret background. Props though for not killing her off or turning her into a generic villain.

The actor who played CAM had such a great presence to him. It's too bad that there wasn't really a meaty case attached to him. I mean, it was meatier than the other episodes this season but it was built more on dramatic moments rather than stringing together clues. In the end, I was hoping for Sherlock to have some kind of brilliant plan, but... it was really just a matter of shooting CAM, which is pretty underwhelming and doesn't seem like Sherlock's approach. I prefer to see him corner his enemies with logical deductions, not whip out a pistol and pop them.

I realized CAM had his own mind palace by the time Sherlock had mentioned that he keeps all of his information in hard copy rather than on a computer to prevent hacks. Extending from that, an even better way to keep this information away from prying eyes is to have it all memorized.

And then when that was confirmed by CAM himself during his monologue, it seemed pretty apparent that the best way to deal with him would be to shoot him. You destroy all of that information right there. I was hoping CAM would have had some leverage that would keep him from being shot, but nope. Or, you know.... have his guards pat down Sherlock and Watson? You know, that thing they did in Sherlock's apartment yet stupidly neglected to do in CAM's own house? Seems like a glaring oversight in the writing.

Oh, and did anyone really think for a second that he was actually wearing some kind of NSA Google Glass? C'mon.

Anyway, do you guys think Moriarty is really back? Or it's just a red herring being used by his network/Sebastian Moran?

 

[Jesus]

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Dudes that was awesome

I had been pleasantly surprised at every turn except until he came upon CAM's mind palace, I pretty much saw that coming. Also I knew they were gonna shoot him in the end, but I thought Mycroft was going to do it. Oh well, it was still unexpected in the end i guess

Can't wait for season 4, there be dragons

 

[Zero Sora]

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Like everyone else, CAM's mind palace wasn't a surprise at all. In fact, I was hoping they'd go one step further and do something a little different. Like giving him an eidetic memory. It's like a mind palace, but without the need to spend time "searching".

The Moriarty thing was a bit of a surprise. When I first saw everyone's reaction shots, I thought that it might be The Woman. After all, everyone but Sherlock knows she's alive. When Moriarty appeared, I admit I was a little giddy at his return, then I let it sink in a bit and thought "Maybe he's not back. It's probably Sebastian Moran." However, in the case they do bring Moriarty back, I can think of only two possible ways Moriarty faked his death. 1. A body double, or stand-in, someone who looks like Moriarty went up to that roof instead of the real one. 2. Moriarty is someone else entirely. The Moriarty we know is just a puppet. Both ways are stupid. I'd prefer Sebastian Moran. It's more logical than Moriarty faking his death.

 

[Nyangoro]

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Control freaks are my absolute favorite type of villain. They are so interesting in their simplicity.

I can understand the desire to see Sherlock actually defeat CAM, but the way it plays out was the better choice (at least in theory). CAM cannot be bested, because there is nothing to best. He's a blackmail artist. He has enough power to change the world without requiring the evidence that would get him convicted. There's no deductive corner to back him into. His reasoning and aims are brutally straightforward and honest. The only way to defeat CAM was to kill him.

It's the greatest victory against the character, in a sense. Bring quickly what the man in control has no control over: Death.

Yeah, this is probably what they were saving Moran for.

 

[Zero Sora]

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So what did everyone think of the Sherlock special. I rather enjoyed it. I will say I figured out the episode was a misdirect about being set in Victorian London the moment the bride shot herself in the head. I was immediately reminded of Moriarty and knew it would connect back to Modern Sherlock.

I was kind of felt a bit annoyed that Sherlock suddenly has a drug habit out of nowhere. Beforehand it was only a smoking habit which he combatted with nicotine patches. Now it's full-blown drugs which he has apparently been taking throughout the series.

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

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So what did everyone think of the Sherlock special. I rather enjoyed it. I will say I figured out the episode was a misdirect about being set in Victorian London the moment the bride shot herself in the head. I was immediately reminded of Moriarty and knew it would connect back to Modern Sherlock.

I was kind of felt a bit annoyed that Sherlock suddenly has a drug habit out of nowhere. Beforehand it was only a smoking habit which he combatted with nicotine patches. Now it's full-blown drugs which he has apparently been taking throughout the series.

The drug habit was hinted at at the start of the last episode, "His Last Vow", when John finds Sherlock in that drug den and Mycroft is about to send him to rehab until he realizes he was in that den for a case. I believe it is also in Magnussen's readout of Sherlock that one of his pressure points was Opium.

I think this is one of those things we were supposed to be shocked then realize it was pretty obvious he had probably been on drugs in the past since drugs were a big part of the original Sherlock's backstory, and why would a modern Sherlock who has access to even more drugs not have a similar history. It fits Sherlock's obsessive personality to have tried them as a way to see how they could affect his mental state. Also his general behavior when he doesn't have a case practically mirrors that of a drug addict. I would make the guess that Sherlock has been staying clean (for the most part) because of his casework essentially serving as his hits, but it's people like Moriarty and Magnussen that could push him into relapsing because of his need to reach a different mental state to think "better".

I'm certain there are more hints...like when Sherlock said that he's clean when he first shows his nicotine patch to Lestrade way back a million years ago. People wouldn't say they are clean if they hadn't taken before. They'd say "I don't do drugs" and similar statements.

ANYWAYS. About the episode. I loved every moment of it. It was silly to expect an episode where it was just pure "AU" classic Sherlock. I thought it was absolutely clever how they did the entire thing. I also realized there was something off when the bride blew her head off. Though they did prime the audience into thinking about the modern take with the rundown of the series at the start of the episode. It wasn't hard to think that we'd suddenly be thrust back to the present, especially after Sherlock said "he" when everybody was looking at the "YOU" in the morgue.

The feminist message was fantastic. It was the first time in a long while that I didn't want to kick Moffat in the face! 8D

If anything, I'm even more excited for Sherlock now and I'm upset we won't be getting any for a long while. Makes me wonder if we will see Sherlock struggle with drug abuse this coming season. The ending when Sherlock jumps from Reichenbach Falls and experiences momentary bliss was definitely a big foreshadow.

"Because it's not the fall that kills you, Sherlock. Of all people, you should know that, it's not the fall, it's never the fall. It's the landing."

Sherlock started falling in S2 when Moriarty ruined his good name for the first time. He jumped off of St. Bart's and has been falling ever sense. He lost two years of his "normal" life to destroy Moriarty's web and still failed. (Pretty certain we can say John getting married was also a sort of personal fall, one where he realized he is alone again in his world and just doesn't fit and the only way he could is through pretending). He fell when he shot Magnussen and crossed the line into a true sociopath. He fell when he took those drugs before getting on that plane to wherever, and now it is time to see how Sherlock lands.

 

[Zero Sora]

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I always knew that the character of Sherlock had a drug addiction, I just didn't remember them hinting at it in Sherlock aside from the smoking habit. I probably should have re-watched the series, but that's my fault.

I wonder if they'll bring back Irene for the next season

 

[Taochan]

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I thought Sherlock having had a drug problem was hinted at in like... the very first episode.

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

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It's been so long since the first episode that I can't even really remember stuff.

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

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Can't believe it's almost been a whole year since the special episode.

Thankfully we've only got a few months to wait for Series 4. New Year's Day~

‘Sherlock’ Season 4 — Possibly Final Season — Premiere Date Set at PBS | TVLine

Looks like the first episode will be an adaption (partial adaption? continuation?) of one of Sherlock's older cases.

The blog of Dr. John. H. Watson

Trailer is also up on Twitter

https://twitter.com/Sherlock221B/status/791370683532120064

 

[Oracle Spockanort]

Three posts in a row~ I must be lucky! Are we just done with Sherlock? Nobody seems interested in this show anymore.

I haven't watched it yet but I heard it was a mixed bag and it felt "off", and honestly I'm not in a rush to see it thanks to everybody I know who liked the show also being kind of drained by the show.

Also thanks to Twitter, I know what happens to Mary...what a waste of S3's finale and of a character. Moffat and Gatiss, I am disappointed. (I mean I'm always disappointed in Moffat but lol come on Gatiss!)