Accuracy of Evolution???

[Einon SAMA]

This isn't to start a violent debate, but I want to know if this response is reasonable and accurate. Anyone is free to respond. TOODLES

You said:but how can one ignore all of these so called facts,how can we as humans ignore some of the folowing facts:


How likely is it that the amino acids thought to have formed in the atmosphere would drift down and form an “organic soup” in the oceans?
If it is assumed that amino acids somehow reached the oceans and were protected from the destructive ultraviolet radiation in the atmosphere, what then?
beneath the surface of the water there would not be enough energy to activate further chemical reactions; water in any case inhibits the growth of more complex molecules.

So once amino acids are in the water, they must get out of it if they are to form larger molecules and evolve toward becoming proteins useful for the formation of life,but if they do they are in the destructive ultraviolet light again.

So the .chances of getting through even this first and relatively easy stage [getting amino acids] in the evolution of life are forbidding.

There are over 100 amino acids, but only 20 are needed for life’s proteins. Moreover, they come in two shapes:

Some of the molecules are “right-handed” and others are “left-handed.” Should they be formed at random, as in a theoretical organic soup, it is most likely that half would be right-handed and half left-handed. And there is no known reason why either shape should be preferred in living things.

Consider this:

Of the 20 amino acids used in producing life’s proteins, all are left-handed.

So the question then is:

How is it that, at random, only the specifically required kinds would be united in the soup? this is without a creator mind you,just random.

What chance is there that the correct amino acids would come together to form a protein molecule?

It could be likened to having a big, thoroughly mixed pile containing equal numbers of red beans and white beans. There are also over 100 different varieties of beans. Now, if you plunged a scoop into this pile, what do you think you would get?

To get the beans that represent the basic components of a protein, you would have to scoop up only red ones—no white ones at all

Also, your scoop must contain only 20 varieties of the red beans, and each one must be in a specific, preassigned place in the scoop.

In the world of protein, a single mistake in any one of these requirements would cause the protein that is produced to fail to function properly. Would any amount of stirring and scooping in this hypothetical bean pile have given the right combination? No. Then how would it have been possible in the hypothetical organic soup?cant be impossible it couldn't happened that way.

The proteins needed for life have very complex molecules. What is the chance of even a simple protein molecule forming at random in an organic soup? Evolutionists acknowledge it to be only one in 10113 power. how large a number is this?

the number 10113 is larger than the estimated total number of all the atoms in the universe.

No question a vast intelligence is involved here.

 

[The Big Lovin']

A source would be nice. Also, this isn't an agrument for evolution. It's an argument for abiogenesis.

 

[Phoenix]

CB025: Abiogenetic amino acid generation

CB040: Left-handed amino acids

CB010: Probability of Abiogenesis

No sale.

 

[Oberon]

This sounds a lot like opinion, and not like fact.

@Phoenix: XD

 

[Joy]

Uhmm, that's why we've been her for hundreds of billions of years.

 

[Einon SAMA]

I just wanted yall's input. Thats all. I don't really understand Pho's reply. Im not into all of that scientific research. Thats why I have you guys. XD Oh well.

 

[Oberon]

Uhmm, that's why we've been her for hundreds of billions of years.

Well, humans for only .2 million years. =/

though that's probably not what you were talking about lol

 

[Phoenix]

Hm, kk, let me reword it. First of all, you are assuming modern life is the simplest form of life possible. Second, the way you calculate the odds does not take into account that thousands, maybe millions, of these processes are happening at the same time. Third, the same thing for the proteins: you cannot assume the proteins we know are the only ones that promote life; you must take into account all possible molecules that could serve this function. Lastly on this point, the calculation of odds used here must be flawed, since we have found these molecules in space.

Next, your left-handed point. I could summarize the heavy scientific info in that site, but let me just state this: some bacteria can and do use right-handed proteins, so early bacteria would've most certainly used both. Left-handed ones were, apparently, simply more efficient.

Finally, the last one doesn't need summarization:

Response:

1. Miller's experiments produced thirteen of the twenty amino acids used in life (Henahan 1996). Others may have formed via other mechanisms. For example, they may have formed in space and been carried to earth on meteors (Pizzarello and Weber 2004).

2. It is not known which amino acids are needed for the most primitive life. It could be that the amino acids that form easily were sufficient and that life later evolved to produce and rely on others.