my unfair point of view grants life your fair point of view doesnt now i dont know about you but that just seems kinda upside down to me∞;5167245 said:
Abortion - Pro life or pro choice?
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Your point of view forces life onto those that don't want it. My point of view allows unwanted life to not come to be. I will not say what a person should or should not do. I've not the right, nor do you. But I will offer them the choice, because everyone deserves the right to make their own choice when it comes to their body.
I definitely would not abort a child of my own. However I'm neutral when it comes to others. Late term abortions do sadden me as the methods to remove the foetus are extreme, I can't help but feel sorry for the child. I have a number of friends who have aborted and I don't condemn them, and I certainly don't condemn rape victims who have abortion.
I wouldn't abort my own child under any circumstance unless it was incredibly life threatening. I'm quite pro-life for myself, but I'm pro-choice for others since it is their choice and none of my business.
I wouldn't abort my own child under any circumstance unless it was incredibly life threatening. I'm quite pro-life for myself, but I'm pro-choice for others since it is their choice and none of my business.
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well im pretty sure the baby is gonn a want to have a life ya know and by the way ∞ its fun arguing with you youre a pretty fun guy to talk to
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How can you know that? How can you say that? We have no idea, we truly don't have any, of what kind of life the baby is going to want to live and if it wants to live through that. As the one hosting the damned thing, who is not to mention older, more mature, more experienced, and actually has the ability to guess the likely outcome of these events, the mother should be the one to decide what happens.
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i know youre more mature because i have a different point of view i get it because of course i have no exprience in the matter no of course i havent i mean theres no way i know somebody who had to deal with this.
no, they mean the mother is older and more mature, not themselves.
And that's not always true, infinity. The mother can be as young as thirteen years old and about to suffer damage due to her small body...
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What I said was this:
The baby has no idea what's in store for it. Neither do we. The only person who has any idea of what might happen in the baby's future is it's parents.
The baby won't be able to make any sort of decision for at least several years. You ask any kid under ten if they think they should have been aborted, they will give an automatic 'yes' and no actually thought-out answer.
The mother is hosting the baby within her own body. She's older than the baby, she's more mature than it, she's smarter, she knows the neighbourhood it might grow up in. Most of all, out of everyone around her, she has the best idea of the baby's future. Therefore she is the most qualified person to make the choice, from every aspect save for a purely medical one.
Even more so, it's then essential that she has an abortion.
The baby has no idea what's in store for it. Neither do we. The only person who has any idea of what might happen in the baby's future is it's parents.
The baby won't be able to make any sort of decision for at least several years. You ask any kid under ten if they think they should have been aborted, they will give an automatic 'yes' and no actually thought-out answer.
The mother is hosting the baby within her own body. She's older than the baby, she's more mature than it, she's smarter, she knows the neighbourhood it might grow up in. Most of all, out of everyone around her, she has the best idea of the baby's future. Therefore she is the most qualified person to make the choice, from every aspect save for a purely medical one.
My apologies. I was the one already making extreme examples, I should have taken things like that into account.
Even more so, it's then essential that she has an abortion.
As the one hosting the damned thing, who is not to mention older, more mature, more experienced, and actually has the ability to guess the likely outcome of these events
no he was talking about himself golpanner
no he was talking about himself golpanner
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Just wow.
This debate reminds me of what mathamas gandi once said ''First they ignore you.
Then they laugh at you.
Then they fight you.
Then you win.
Then they laugh at you.
Then they fight you.
Then you win.
I personally dislike the idea of abortion, but I don't think it should be outlawed. Especially in the case of rape, I can't really blame the mother. No, it's not the baby's fault, but the mother shouldn't be forced to give birth to a child born of a forced union if she doesn't feel up to it. Not like the child would ever know anyway.
No, he very clearly said 'the mother', look.
∞;5167263 said:
In any case........ how can 'he host the damn thing'.... since men can't get pregnant? That would make no sense...
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That's ok :3 Yes, I agree. In come cases, abortions MUST happen or else the mother will die, or both will die anyway.
I think you're not seeing the whole picture here regarding the matter. The situation is far more complicated for both the mother and the baby than you think.
And by the way, children aren't really that smart.
I'm pro choice personally.
It is problematic to think of it from an ethical point of view, seeing it as killing a potential human life and all, but on the other hand, if the mother is already so far that she wants an abortion, then she probably wouldn't be able to care for it properly anyway. I think the problems with a forced child are overall greater than with the abortion itself.
I hate this entire argument. Barring special cases (such as rape and the like), it's based exclusively on when you consider something to be human. For example, I believe that, even as a "parasite", that it's a human from conception. It's not going to be anything but human, after all (and therefore, I refer to it as a human). Where as there are some people that think the mother should be allowed the option even after birth.
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I'm pro-life, unless the baby needs to be removed to save the mother for medical reasons and such.
Funny how you can do jail time for harming a pet, but you can legally go to a clinic to kill a human being.
Funny how you can do jail time for harming a pet, but you can legally go to a clinic to kill a human being.
I don't agree with abortion, and I would never get one, but I'm not going to stop another woman from choosing to get one.
It all depends on how you define a "human being", when exactly does an embryo become human?
But that's another debate in itself...
I believe in pro-choice, but it would take a really strong person to go through with an abortion... Or atleast a woman with a very strong reason. Personally, I'm not that strong enough. Even if the world was about to end because of it, I don't think I could ever give up a child.
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