A small little "theory" about the guardian and the keyblade

[Oracle Spockanort]

Ansem SoD could wield one if he had the ability. Sora could and he was a heart. Nothing was stoping SoD except his dark heart.

 

[Ralz]

Nice idea, except at two points, the Guardian appears the same time as Xehanort's keyblade. Once during, his grab + Ars Solum combo, and again in the "realm of light," where you Dual Limit with Terra. Although, the second time is sort've a mental thing.

I always thought the Guardian was darkness given form, specifically Xehanort's immense darkness.

 

[rac7d]

it wouldnt be suprising if the keyblade was names the guardian but numura loves holding onto details liek that

 

[Crystal]

Ansem SoD is a heart. Heartless are hearts.

I thought heartless is lack of hearts xDD

 

[Fractured_Heart628]

I think the Guardian might be either Terra or Eraqus' Heartless. And, XH's is Master Xehanort's Heartless not just Terra and Master Xehanort's Heartless. I'm confused about the whole Heartless thing.

 

[chasespicer056]

false.
As Anagram already said, the keyblade is fake. Roxas didn't use Xion's keyblade. it just awakened Ven's heart inside him to duel wield
Roxas does NOT duel wield because of xion.

yes you need a heart to wield
That's why Nomura said
"Xemnas can use a keyblade but he choosed not to"

maybe because he has Terra's heart....

Trust me, if Xemnas ACTUALLY had Terra's heart, he wouldn't have done any of the cruel things he did in the series.

If anything, Xemnas makes the same choices that Terra would have made in his position (having no emotions and slowly regaining memories).

 

[Samhain]

I remember Xemnas also being a special nobody, but don't know actually he can wield a keyblade.

Nomura said he choosed not to in one of his interviews

If the gaurdian is the Keyblade, why does Ansem SoD have the Gaurdian? Wouldn't that mean he could have had a Keyblade? Meh...I just think it sumbodies Heartless

Yes Ansem SOD has a keyblade. hell it just makes the point stronger because it also tells us that you don't need memories of wielding a keyblade if both Xemnas and Ansem SoD can wield.

Yeah, i have the same question too xD
I don't think Ansem SoD can wield a keyblade since he don't have heart,right ?

no, no, no,

Ansem SoD CAN wield the keyblade. heartless have hearts

Nice idea, except at two points, the Guardian appears the same time as Xehanort's keyblade. Once during, his grab + Ars Solum combo, and again in the "realm of light," where you Dual Limit with Terra. Although, the second time is sort've a mental thing.

I always thought the Guardian was darkness given form, specifically Xehanort's immense darkness.

it could be just for gameplay purposes
i mean we still have yet lacked to see the Guardian and Xehanort's Keybade at the same time during cutscenes

Trust me, if Xemnas ACTUALLY had Terra's heart, he wouldn't have done any of the cruel things he did in the series.

If anything, Xemnas makes the same choices that Terra would have made in his position (having no emotions and slowly regaining memories).

Why would you say that?
Remember what Master Xehanort said

"Your heart is stained by darkness"
Besides remember Terra locked his own heart by trying to play hero and failed miserably. that's also a reason why Xemnas didn't take over Terra's personality but instead of Xehanort's because Terra's heart was basically sealed into his own body while Xehanort had the stronger heart and mind influence and because it was more likely that Master Xehanort was in control of Xehanort the Apprentice when he lost his heart, its a reason why Xemnas took over Xehanort's personality instead of Terra's

 

[Box_ghost]

That's why having a heart is a requirement for wielding a keyblade.

 

[Samhain]

well that was a big what the hell moment

 

[Box_ghost]

It's Roxas. Roxas is contradictory to the statement that a heart is required.

 

[Silverslide]

It's debatable that Roxas actually does have a heart.

 

[Sephiroth0812]

Roxas could wield because of Sora and probably having Ventus's sleeping injured heart within him. That doesn't mean however that Roxas possesses an own heart.
He essentially was just "borrowing" a crippled/maimed one which allowed him to experience true emotions, not more...

 

[Silverslide]

We know that you need a heart to wield a keyblade, and Roxas wield two. We know they aren't fake becasue Riku would have been able to tell when he had oblivion. He cries, he shows extreme emotion in Twilight Town.

It all points to him having a heart. Whether it is fractured or doesn't belong to him is irrelevant.

I believe: Heart+Vessel=Somebody

 

[Box_ghost]

It's debatable that Roxas actually does have a heart.

Roxas could wield because of Sora and probably having Ventus's sleeping injured heart within him. That doesn't mean however that Roxas possesses an own heart.
He essentially was just "borrowing" a crippled/maimed one which allowed him to experience true emotions, not more...

should have stopped there.

We know that you need a heart to wield a keyblade, and Roxas wield two. We know they aren't fake becasue Riku would have been able to tell when he had oblivion. He cries, he shows extreme emotion in Twilight Town.

It all points to him having a heart. Whether it is fractured or doesn't belong to him is irrelevant.

I believe: Heart+Vessel=Somebody

It's confirmed that Roxas wields the Keyblade because Sora does.

 

[Silverslide]

should have stopped there.



It's confirmed that Roxas wields the Keyblade because Sora does.

For one, show me where, two it still doesn't explain how he can wield without a heart without it being fake.

Him having a heart is the only logical explanation.

 

[Box_ghost]

It's debatable that Roxas actually does have a heart.

Roxas could wield because of Sora and probably having Ventus's sleeping injured heart within him. That doesn't mean however that Roxas possesses an own heart.
He essentially was just "borrowing" a crippled/maimed one which allowed him to experience true emotions, not more...

For one, show me where, two it still doesn't explain how he can wield without a heart without it being fake.

Him having a heart is the only logical explanation.

5:14

 

[chasespicer056]

should have stopped there.



It's confirmed that Roxas wields the Keyblade because Sora does.

Yes but it's debatable as to how he can Dual-wield Keyblades. One possibility is that he has Ven's heart and the second Keyblade is Ven's.

 

[Sephiroth0812]

Wasn't it confirmed in a Nomura-Interview that the second keyblade Sora can wield (and by extension his nobody,too) is Ven's?

 

[chasespicer056]

Wasn't it confirmed in a Nomura-Interview that the second keyblade Sora can wield (and by extension his nobody,too) is Ven's?

I think it may have been. But Nomura left it open to debate whether or not Roxas had Ven's heart. Though considering how Roxas was the only Nobody with genuine emotions, he probably had one.

And even if it wasn't, the second weapon had to come from somewhere. It has to be Ven's.

 

[K3ybladespartan]

[no, no, no,

Ansem SoD CAN wield the keyblade. heartless have hearts

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But that contradicts what a heartless is doesn't it? A being without a heart?