A logical way to stop Org. 13's plans in Kh2

[Lunarmaster54]

So I was thinking about this in English class today

The Organization was using Sora to create Kingdom Hearts with the sum of all the hearts that Sora released by destroying the Heartless with his Keyblade. Sora was briefly depressed because he didn't know what to do after this plan was told to him but then he went right on back to killing heartless with his keyblade.

He could have done one of two things to stop this plan of theirs in its tracks.

1. Be like Donald and use magic to destroy the heartless that attack him. If it works for the duck then why couldn't it work for Sora? He can simply carry a supply of ethers on him and if he runs out of magic, let Donald or Goofy take over the fight until his magic refills.

2. Get his hands on an actual sword to fight them with. When the heartless invade Radiant Garden Leon and co are seen using their own weapons, not keyblades, to kill them with. and it was working just fine. Sora could have simply gotten himself a real sword and used it to kill heartless while his keyblade would be used for the nobodies.

You'd think that something like this would have occurred to Sora.

 

[flyingfishstick]

Only a Keyblade can destroy a heartless. Whenever someone like Donald or Goofy "kills" a heartless it pops back up somewhere else and continues its rampage.

 

[Gexus]

Like flyingfishsticks said, they can really only be truly vanquished by a keyblade. Unfortunately, the Organization intercepted the process and made all returning hearts enter their artificial Kingdom Hearts, instead of the real one.

 

[kupo1121]

Also, I'm pretty sure killing a Heartless using magic that was produced by the keyblade is equivalent to just defeating them directly with a keyblade's swing considering they both stem from they keyblade, as opposed to Donald who's magic stems from his wand.

 

[Lunarmaster54]

Whenever someone like Donald or Goofy "kills" a heartless it pops back up somewhere else and continues its rampage.

Ahh, I didn't know that. So basically the only one who did any good during the Radiant Garden invasion was Sora.. although that does explain how it fell the first time.. everyone else was just shifting the heartless to different locations.

Also, I'm pretty sure killing a Heartless using magic that was produced by the keyblade is equivalent to just defeating them directly with a keyblade's swing considering they both stem from they keyblade, as opposed to Donald who's magic stems from his wand.

Sora doesn't need the keyblade to use magic. When Riku took it from him in Kh1 he was still able to use magic and it was just as strong as before

 

[Reagan Rayden]

I'm just going to assume that weapons are a rare thing to come by. Although even if they were easy to find in shops and whatnot Sora more than likely felt like he couldn't use anything other than the Keyblade to stop Organization XIII. If you've tried using a different sword than the one you are accustomed to it feels like starting from scratch. Similarly to driving someone else's car. It would weaken his efforts to stop Organization XIII than it would help it.

Sora doesn't need the keyblade to use magic. When Riku took it from him in Kh1 he was still able to use magic and it was just as strong as before

He's saying if the Keyblade is the object that projects magic and defeats a Heartless it still counts as the Keyblade felling it.

 

[Xbladewielder]

Well, the heartless would just pop back up. But that would take care of them for then, and who knows how long it takes for the heartless to form again.

 

[Weeaboo]

You're also implying that sora has any sense of logic.

 

[doortolight]

Here's a question, I'm surprised no one else asked. Why weren't you paying attention to what was going on in class?

 

[ajmrowland]

^boring teacher? The misconception that English class is not needed in english speaking nations?

Also, we gotta remember he had to face some badass heartless during the second Disney World visits. I personally wouldnt feel comfortable letting those giant hearless rise again to terrorize Pride Lands and Port Royal.

 

[Xbladewielder]

This is sort of on topic: If the heartless took hearts, and they can be taken out only by key blade, then the unversed from BBS, what do they do? It never shows them taking hearts or really doing anything, and unversed can also be taken out by key blade. I think heartless are more likely to survive than unversed or even nobodies, even though nobodies are considerably stronger

 

[Ruran]

This is sort of on topic: If the heartless took hearts, and they can be taken out only by key blade, then the unversed from BBS, what do they do? It never shows them taking hearts or really doing anything, and unversed can also be taken out by key blade. I think heartless are more likely to survive than unversed or even nobodies, even though nobodies are considerably stronger

Aside from existing to be filler it seems they exist to benefit Vanitas. Unlike Heartless or Nobodies, Unversed all come from one intelligent source and then go back to that source when they die. Unversed get strength from negative emotions so when they go back to Vanitas he in turn gets stronger. There's more or less a "bee" mentality to it, Vanitas is the "queen" (lol) and the Unversed are the "worker bees" serving the "queen" by collecting "pollen".

 

[KeyofEvil'sBane]

When you think about it, Org 13 really could have succeeded by just approaching Sora and saying "Hey, we want our hearts back, can you help us by fighting heartless, which you do anyway?". With the kind of character Sora is, he would have believed that almost instantly, and jumped at the chance to unwittingly help them in their scheme.

 

[Ruran]

^Pretty much, I thought about this is particular with (ReCoM. Marluxia's plan would have gone so much easier if he had just invited Sora to CO for a spot of tea and a biscuit and made nice with him.

 

[Xbladewielder]

Yes, they could have just been nice, but what's the fun it that? And maybe, since they're nobodies, they probably don't care about being nice or doing anything bad as long as they get what they want

 

[KeyofEvil'sBane]

Yes, they could have just been nice, but what's the fun it that? And maybe, since they're nobodies, they probably don't care about being nice or doing anything bad as long as they get what they want

Yes, but the whole point about the Org (and Nobodies in general) is that they are able to think and plan, as well as knowing and remembering what it is like to have to have a heart. Surely with that in mind, they would simply see being nice to Sora would be the easiest way to accomplish their goal

 

[Nayru's Love]

Even though sending the hearts of defeated heartless helped the Org in their goals, it's not like letting those hearts be taken over by darkness again was that much better of a solution. The hearts of artificial Heartless are captive hearts, whether they'd be in possession of the Org or the Heartless.

 

[Xbladewielder]

Well, maybe sora wouldn't be that dumb and help that. Riku or the king or someone could have convinced him otherwise. Besides, if sora did help them, then they would have to rely mainly on them. Sora did figure out what was happening. If he figured it out when he was helping the organization, their whole plan and plot would collapse, since none of them have keyblades

 

[Nayru's Love]

Uhh, mind rewording that? It sounded pretty vague, so I'm not sure what you're getting that. :x

 

[morgancb35]

Is it possible that sora could fetch the hearts before they reach kingdom hearts? Just a thought.