14th member / Terra = Xehanort

[UrbanQuattrus]

For all we know, the 14th member is Master Xehanort, and Aqua becomes the other Xehanort... maybe it sounds stupid, but given all we know for sure (which is very nearly nothing), I could claim Tweety Bird becomes Xehanort and it wouldn't make a difference. We don't know and we won't until more info or one of the games comes out - but in the meantime, I am a little tired of all the "14th is Aqua" threads. (I feel a little guilty, because I think I may have been among the first to start the ball rolling on it!)

 

[OmniChaos]

Well, what about MX himself....?

One thing that we can say is that MX is at least half, if not all, of Xehanort...
There is far to much evidence supporting this...

As for me, I have two possibilities that I would be satisfied with...
A: Xehanort = MX...
B: Xehanort = MX + DS...

It is also in desending order of most favorite to least...

 

[Wehrmacht]

One thing that we can say is that MX is at least half, if not all, of Xehanort...
There is far to much evidence supporting this...

As for me, I have two possibilities that I would be satisfied with...
A: Xehanort = MX...
B: Xehanort = MX + DS...

It is also in desending order of most favorite to least...

Agree'd. KH2 Xehanort is at least part MX, and there's no way around that.

 

[Dragoryu]

I think the Xehanort=Terra theory is plausible, but I think it has been overdone as well. Why can't people think outside of the main theories and come up with their own. If someone had a theory about why Terra lost his memory, that would probably be worthwhile.

 

[Ultima Fenrir]

I think information about the Sora vs. Terra battle would be helpful. Like is it in the present time, or is it even real? If it were in the present time and Terra is in the Gathering Place alone I think that would almost certainly show that he did not become Xehanort.

 

[kerii]

As this thread slowly goes in the opposite direction from whence it started, Th XIV member is a girl, and she is a new character. That much is true. She is not Aqua because the time frame doesn't fit. The Infamous Terra=Xehanort theory has much ground because several pieces add up. Finally discussing theories and Ideas is good because it will build suspense for the games, in essence to get people so psyched about it they can't stand to wait for it. this is why we have teasers. Don't complain about people and their theories, because they are only theories and are created as a diversion until the game comes out. Also its fun to see who's theory is closest if not correct....I was under the impression that the portal was somekind of time warp...but I do not know how it gets there. This Idea makes sense to me because it is in the caslte that was nothing but a time warp level in essence.

 

[Wehrmacht]

If it were in the present time and Terra is in the Gathering Place alone I think that would almost certainly show that he did not become Xehanort.

Well, not necessarily...it could be that it's just a memory or feeling from Terra, though I personally think a feeling/memory would not be as strong as Terra was. I don't think Sora really "beat him", just that he hit him enough to knock him back into reality.

I think the only incorpoeral Terra theory I accept is the one where Terra dies, and his spirit haunts the Gathering Place...thusly he couldn't be Xehanort even if it was the past.

Don't complain about people and their theories, because they are only theories and are created as a diversion until the game comes out.

It's not really that pleasant to see the sime idea posted repeatedly in a slightly altered form. It's just the same thing, they don't bother thinking of other possibilities or ideas.

Plus, most of them don't really show much other evidence, other than then the fact that they look alike, which, when you think about it, might not mean all that much anyway, since Cloud looks like Roxas and Sora, Riku looks like Sephiroth, and there's no big connection there, obviously.

I think just about the only one who went at that theory halfway decently was V.A.T13, who bothered to compile a comprehensive list of similarities and other things. And she could actually debate with other people on the issue.

Anyway...

I was under the impression that the portal was somekind of time warp...but I do not know how it gets there. This Idea makes sense to me because it is in the caslte that was nothing but a time warp level in essence.

Well, keep in this mind: if it's a time warp, it's at least post BBS (or at least after the secret ending). The way Terra speaks makes it seem as if both are dead, and that MX has taken them away from him.

And in any case, the time warp idea is not something I'm fond of, because there really wasn't much to do at DC asides from TR, and the Hall of the Cornerstone was the best place to put it. In went Terra.

Also, it might be another hint at a connection with Mickey, and we know for a fact that the connection exists.

 

[kerii]

I've had an Idea. I saw somewhere the the place where Sora faught Terra was called lengerin sentiments or something like that, and that he pretty much tells you he hate Xehanort...it was said that the BBS trailer took place after the game, so it is plausible that in some sequence of events Terra became Xehanort, and his lingering memory was somehow preserved. Just like Roxas's battle with Sora in Sora's heart.

 

[Ultima Fenrir]

Finally discussing theories and Ideas is good because it will build suspense for the games, in essence to get people so psyched about it they can't stand to wait for it. this is why we have teasers. Don't complain about people and their theories, because they are only theories and are created as a diversion until the game comes out. Also its fun to see who's theory is closest if not correct.

In no way, shape, or form did I start the thread complaining about theories. I have posted a few myself. It's the theories that are just being repeated on a daily basis with the same ideas. That's what aggravates me. I couldn't come close to naming all the threads that have said they know who the 14th member are and its always Aqua. I'll put it this way, deductive reasoning puts it like so: The 14th member is either Aqua's nobody or someone we have not yet seen. That's it, there is no other way to put it based on 1 single picture showing no facial features, except a chin.

 

[Wehrmacht]

I've had an Idea. I saw somewhere the the place where Sora faught Terra was called lengerin sentiments or something like that,

No, actually. The place where Sora fights Terra is called "Gathering Place". I think what you're talking about is what the JJ calls Terra. But even so, kanji can be interpreted in several ways, and Lingering Sentiment is not the only possible translation. I've heard "Lingering Spirit" and "Lingering Will" too, which would make sense if Terra died, and his spirit haunted the Gathering Place.

it was said that the BBS trailer took place after the game,

Eh, it stated it was the end of the game...

so it is plausible that in some sequence of events Terra became Xehanort, and his lingering memory was somehow preserved.

I personally don't think a memory of Terra would be that powerful.

Just like Roxas's battle with Sora in Sora's heart.

And how is that similar, exactly...? It's not a memory.

 

[kerii]

In no way, shape, or form did I start the thread complaining about theories. I have posted a few myself. It's the theories that are just being repeated on a daily basis with the same ideas. That's what aggravates me. I couldn't come close to naming all the threads that have said they know who the 14th member are and its always Aqua. I'll put it this way, deductive reasoning puts it like so: The 14th member is either Aqua's nobody or someone we have not yet seen. That's it, there is no other way to put it based on 1 single picture showing no facial features, except a chin.

Yeah I have to agree with all of that, I'm tired of that theory as well. It has no base, even the idea of her nobody being the person is ilogical at this point. I have seen that one and the Terra=(kh2) Xehanort and there is a bit of evidence that supports it, but it is correct to assume that we will all be surprised when the games are finally released. Don't think that I meant to scold, I was simply talking, sorry if I seemed threating. (lol, me threating)

 

[Shinjuku]

Okay this #14 is suppose to be a new character I'm not keeping up with these 3 new games.
Are you guys sure she is new she kinda reminds me of namine I actually believe that's who that is, but oh well.

 

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no it's not Namine

 

[Shinjuku]

I'm just making my own guess it isn't that serious anyway I could see Namine being in the Org. before she became what she was in KH2.

 

[Infinite Complex]

i agree, these theorys are becoming way to far-fetched!

 

[Ultima Fenrir]

Okay this #14 is suppose to be a new character I'm not keeping up with these 3 new games.
Are you guys sure she is new she kinda reminds me of namine I actually believe that's who that is, but oh well.

When Nomura was interviewed shortly after the new games were announced at TGS he was asked about the 14th member and he specifically said it is not Namine, and more recently he said it is a new character.

 

[OmniChaos]

The Infamous Terra=Xehanort theory has much ground because several pieces add up.

Much ground...?
The Terra=Xehanort theory is teetering on the edge of destruction...
If that fight turns out not to be canon, there is as much ground for Terra=Xehanort as there is for Sora being a piece of toast...
But they look the same, you say...? Well, Stetzer looks like Sephiroth and somewhat like Axel too, but looks aren't everything, are they...?

I think the only incorpoeral Terra theory I accept is the one where Terra dies, and his spirit haunts the Gathering Place...thusly he couldn't be Xehanort even if it was the past.

Not to mention even if it is in the past or present, there is a lot of stuff keeping this from becoming a reality...

 

[Orion]

Same story here

I'm a so f'ing sick of people saying that Aqua is the XIVth Member. Obviously they have no real or researched information to back this up, but i'm still geting sick of people saying it's Aqua

ANYONE WHO IS GETTING PISSED OF WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO SAY AQUA IS NUMBER XIV,
READ HERE​

Humanoid Nobodies need to keep roughly the same skin, hair and eye colour as their somebodies, Right? So that's what you say to people who still crap on that Aqua is number XIV.

FOR ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO STILL THINK AQUA OR EVEN NAMINE IS NUMBER XIV; READ BELOW

SHE'S NOT!
GET OVER IT​

 

[Wehrmacht]

Humanoid Nobodies need to keep roughly the same skin, hair and eye colour as their somebodies, Right? So that's what you say to people who still crap on that Aqua is number XIV.

Eh, that's true, but you have to remember: Xemnas has darker skin than Xehanort...also, we don't know the hair or eye color of XIV...but remember: Xemnas has orange eyes, whereas Xehanort's are brown...and Roxas has blond hair, whereas Sora's is brown...

 

[Pern]

And if is was Aqua she would have to be older now then she was 10 year ago.