I previously made this on the Worlds you want thread and earlier on this thread, but now that the Thread has been brought back, I think it's the perfect time to express which worlds that have appeared in previous titles I don't want to see come back and the films/properties I don't want as worlds in a future game.
From all the Disney worlds we've gotten to explore in the KH series, the ONLY ones I see are completely done in terms of story and are unlikely to come back in future KH installments are:
- Wonderland (Alice in Wonderland)
- Deep Jungle (Tarzan) - Disney lost the rights to use Tarzan
- Olympus/Olympus Coliseum (Hercules) - After KH3's story for the world I say we're completely done with the story of Hercules. I just don't think their is anything else they can do storywise, aside from the Tournaments, cause the Titans are officially destroyed and Hades coming up with a plan to take over Olympus and destroy Hercules is becoming tedious.
Halloween Town (Nightmare Before Christmas) - As said above.
- Atlantica (Little Mermaid)
- Beast's Castle (Beauty and the Beast) - Beast turns into a Human, nuff said.
- The Land of Dragons (Mulan) - I don't want to see them adapt the sequel just to see Mushu act as a malicious prick.
- Timeless River
- Space Paranoids (Tron) - Tron assumed the functions of the MCP
- Castle of Dreams (Cinderella) - Finished the story back in BBS
- Dwarf Woodlands (Snow White) - Same as Cinderella
- Enchanted Dominion (Sleeping Beauty) - Same as Cinderella and Snow White
- La Cité des Cloches (Hunchback of Notre Dame)
- The Grid (Tron: Legacy)
- Country of the Musketeers (Mickey, Donald, Goofy: The Three Musketeers)
- Prankster's Paradise (Pinocchio) - I still would like to see them use the 358/Days storyline in a future KH game and have Honest John and Gideon make their debut, but given that Pinocchio is already a real boy and the world was restructured for DDD, I think it's officially done.
- Kingdom of Corona (Tangled) - While we do have the television series that is set after the film, it's going to be difficult just creating the original characters introduced from the show in the same style as the original film, plus the show was done at Disney Television Animation instead of Walt Disney Animation Studios
- Monstropolis (Monster's Inc.) - I don't know what they can do with the world now that Randall won't cause anymore problems.
- San Fransokyo (Big Hero 6) - Same as Tangled
As for the Disney worlds, I expect to see return and those that could go either way:
Expected:
- Agrabah (Aladdin) - While the world has been overused a lot, There is still the plot of Aladdin and the King of Thieves that they need to go over
- 100 Acre Wood (Winnie the Pooh) - Despite the divisiveness that this world had with MOST KH fans and the negativity that KH3's version of the world haI, I say it's one of the worlds I expect to see come back.
- Arendelle (Frozen) - Plot of Frozen II
- Toy Box (Toy Story)
Going either way:
- Neverland (Peter Pan)
- Pride Lands (The Lion King) - Not against the world but frankly I rather would like to just explore a different animal-based Disney world (e.g. Jungle Book, Bambi, Dumbo, Zootopia)
- The Caribbean (Pirates of the Caribbean) - While many think the world is done, I'd be surprised if the world comes back and adapts the events of the 5th film. Plus time flows differently in the Disney worlds so we shall see.
- Deep Space/Hawaii (Lilo & Stitch) - I said this before in past posts, but I doubt the movie is 100% done, sure it only covered the events of Stitch escaping the Galactic Federation in BBS, but I don't think the events of the Lilo & Stitch movie and franchise happened sometime between BBS and the original KH game perhaps Stitch could've crashed into Radiant Garden or some other original world where he learned about Ohana, Friendship, and the difference of right and wrong. I still would like to see Stitch and his homeworld appear in a future KH game along with collecting the different experiments across the worlds and the first official appearance of Agent Pleakely, plus it could tie in with Stitch's connections with Terra, Aqua and Ventus. On top of that, outside of gameplay and Jiminy's Journal, Stitch has never been referred to as "Stitch" or hinted to have ever visited Lilo's world prior to KH2. So all of that can easily be retconned as it's not really a part of the story along with the fact time flows differently in the Disney worlds, plus none of the characters that reside in Radiant Garden (mainly Leon) never call him Stitch.
- Symphony of Sorcery (Fantasia) - There is still stuff that they can use for the world, I especially would like to see them use elements of Fantasia 2000, it just comes down to where it fits in the game as a game.
Now for the films/properties I don't want or wouldn't work out in future KH games:
- Animated films like Chicken Little, Home on the Range, The Black Cauldron, Bolt, Fox and the Hound, Oliver and Company, and The Aristocats becoming worlds. I just think these animated films are best kept out in KH given the former two films were panned by Critics and the last four films will be difficult to see them implemented as worlds given they are grounded and set in a normal setting, so I see them as characters residing in an original world like Radiant Garden or Twilight Town (Oliver and Company, and The Aristocats) or as Summons (e.g. Bolt).
- Star Wars - I don't want to be a sourpuss, but I really don't want Star Wars to be shoehorned or ever be involved in the KH series. As SweetYetSalty said it himself, Star Wars has a lot of lore that blows KH's lore out of the water, on top of that having Star Wars as a world would feel out of place, because their are Many, Many different planets that inhabit the Star Wars Universe and frankly I don't want to just take a gamble to just have all the Star Wars planets in one world. Plus, Lucasfilm might put restrictions on a Star Wars based world, and It would break "the world order rule" by having the Star Wars characters including the antagonists become aware of the existence of other worlds. I just don't want either The Confederacy Systems, the Galactic Empire or The First Order to become recurring antagonists to go after Sora and the gang and conquer the worlds, just leave that to Xehanort, Organization XIII, Xigbaer, The Foretellers and Maleficent and Pete.
- Marvel - Same as Star Wars, I just don't want them to be shoehorned into Kingdom Hearts, have Thanos become aware of other worlds, and having restrictions from the folks at Marvel
- the Disney Channel Live-action sitcoms - No. Thank you. I just can't envision the Disney Channel sitcoms EVER appearing in Kingdom Hearts game.
- Enchanted - I love the film, but In my opinion I think this is one of the few live-action hybrid Disney films that I see the MOST difficult to be implemented into Kingdom Hearts, given that it's set in NYC and other than Giselle learning to adapt to her surroundings in the real world compared to when she lived in Andalasia, their isn't really to much happening other than the conflicts being Prince Edward trying to bring Giselle back, and Nathaniel trying to poison Giselle with a poison apple by orders of Narissa only to fail. Even Queen Narissa doesn't become a huge conflict until the climax of the film, after Nathaniel fails to poison Giselle.
- 20th Century Fox Properties - Same as Marvel and Star Wars, I don't want ANY Fox properties to be shoehorned into Kingdom Hearts (except for maybe Blue Sky Studios).
- Pixar - I think as what SweetYetSalty said, other than Toy Story, Monster's Inc., Incredibles, Coco, Brave, Onward and maybe A Bug's Life that are or will soon become worlds in a future KH game, their are some Pixar movies that I can't envision them as actual worlds in future games of the series such as Cars, Finding Nemo, Inside Out, Wall-E, and Up. I could see the latter two films have their characters in an original world (e.g. Twilight Town, Radiant Garden) much like how Remy (Little Chef) was Scrooge McDuck's chef in Twilight Town and the Inside Out emotions residing in Sora, Kairi, Namine, or Xion's head.
- Live-action remake worlds - Other than the 2010 Alice in Wonderland film and Maleficent, I don't want them to immediately add in the Live-action remake worlds of animated films. Unless if Nomura and his team come up with some realm where these Live-action remakes worlds can be accessed I don't want them to be immediately added in to the KH series.
I do not want to see Arendelle ever again, but with the sequel out and the franchise still being popular, I'm afraid we will. It was far and away the most lazily implemented Disney world in KHIII, and possibly the whole series. All the player does is watch the story happen from afar, and that musical number... just no. Even Sora could see how out of place that was. The world had potential, but I wouldn't bet on them getting it right the second time. Better to just leave it out.
To each their own but honestly, I feel in my unpopular opinion that Kingdom of Corona was more frustrating than Arendelle as Sora and the gang were also out of place in in the world especially during the 2nd and 3rd. I already made a lot of complaints on Kingdom of Corona, before which you can view
here,
here and
here, but literally, Sora, Donald and Goofy stood out like a "sore thumb" in the world especially during the 2nd and last acts of the world.
But literally long story short my problems with Corona:
- The world's felt “forced” and linear, even more FORCED than Arendelle and The Caribbean compared to the original movie such (e.g. How Eugene/Flynn got knocked unconscious, Him escaping from the Guards with Maximus help (minus the Pub Thugs) and Revealing his real name at the end of the world to SDG).
- Sora just wouldn’t shut up when he tried to call out Rapunzel and attracted attention of the antagonists even if he showed concerned for Rapunzel's well being. The First time attracted Gothel’s attention, the second time attracted Marluxia’s attention
- Sora and the gang never question Rapunzel's long hair along with witnessing Rapunzel’s magic powers through her hair.
- Sora and the gang remaining blissfully unaware about Mother Gothel true colors after their first and ONLY time encountering her even when she coldly dismissed them and said they were “useless and of no help” until Marluxia reveals her real colors to them through context. Wanna hear the worse part, they, especially Goofy (who is supposed to be the intelligent one of the trio) didn’t grow suspicious of Gothel after her “useless and of no help” comment.
- Gothel and Rapunzel saw/Encounter Marluxia ONCE none of them ever bring up his name nor mention his name again for the remainder of the world which made Marluxia's role in Corona forced and shoehorned when compared to Xaldin's role as Antagonist in Beast's Castle in KH2. At least with Monstropolis, Toy Box and San Fransokyo the inhabitants do acknowledged the Organization XIII member instead of brushing them off like it was nothing, particularly the former when Randall had a "teamup" with Vanitas.
- When Flynn goes out to rescue Rapunzel, the rest of it (Gothel stabbing Flynn/Eugene, Eugene cutting Rapunzel's hair causing Gothel aged to dust, Rapunzel healing Flynn/Eugene) just had Sora Donald and Goofy being just "There" in the background not knowing what's happening ever since Flynn went of to the tower to rescue Rapunzel. Oh sure, they saw Gothel's cloak before it was immediately turned into the Grim Guardianess Heartless by Marluxia and witness Flynn/Eugene dying until Rapunzel revived him with the Healing incantation but they weren't acknowledged by the cast until after Eugene was Healed.