Cutscene in the Caribbean. Luxord said it.*Sigh* Yep, that sounds about right. Though, just for clarity's sake, was the box said to be "hope" in a report, or in a cutscene?
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Cutscene in the Caribbean. Luxord said it.*Sigh* Yep, that sounds about right. Though, just for clarity's sake, was the box said to be "hope" in a report, or in a cutscene?
From the Ultimania:From where did this name come from?
Xehanort's keyblade finally has a name. "Goat of Atonement". And Axel's keyblade is "Flame Liberator"
Ephemera can't be X&E's Master because we see him help Sora in the Keyblade Graveyard, with no physical appearance changes aka aging.
'cept Luxu doesn't know this.
Yet to be seen.
Maleficent says that the Book of Prophecies is inside the Box, while Luxord claims there's hope. Either they're both right, or not.Cutscene in the Caribbean. Luxord said it.
Thanks for the clarification. Hmm... "atonement" means "reparation for a wrong or injury". I wonder what the Master did that would require "reparation"? Also, if you make a Google search of "goat and the devil", you'll come up with "Baphomet", which sounds a lot like what Xehanort was: seeking balance. Other than that, I wonder how relevant the mythos with No Name will still be, seeing as how there's mention of Baphomet being a symbol of the Knights Templar and their Inquisition, which is technically what the MoM did with the KHx characters.From the Ultimania:
Scala is an ancient civilization. Ephemera can't be X&E's Master because X&E aren't as ancient as Scala.We also see Eraqus and Xehanort revert to their younger ages after death. So how does that prevent Ephemer from doing it? It's either something Hearts can naturally do, or something they would have learned from him.
I'm sure Luxu took a more active role around Xehanort because he knew there was a possibility that MX could somehow undermine the MoM's plan. What if Sora couldn't have defeated Master Xehanort? I doubt it was part of the MoM's plan to have someone like Xehanort rewriting the universe to his liking.But Luxu knowing that MoM already knows the events of things to come, MoM would have worked out a way to prevent his plan from failing.
Scala is an ancient civilization.
Ephemera can't be X&E's Master because X&E aren't as ancient as Scala.
I'm sure Luxu took a more active role around Xehanort because he knew there was a possibility that MX could somehow undermine the MoM's plan.
What if Sora couldn't have defeated Master Xehanort? I doubt it was part of the MoM's plan to have someone like Xehanort rewriting the universe to his liking.
Because Scala was founded by the Dandelions. Not everyone ended up in present time KINGDOM HEARTS. Others stayed behind and founded Scala ad Caelum. Ephemera or Brain, whoever founded Scala, did so from zero. They didn't just end up blasted in another time era and decided to conquer an empty city.What does Scala ad Caelum have to do with what happened to the Union Leaders after Cross?
Because Scala was founded by the Dandelions.
Not everyone ended up in present time KINGDOM HEARTS.
Others stayed behind and founded Scala ad Caelum. Ephemera or Brain, whoever founded Scala, did so from zero.
They didn't just end up blasted in another time era and decided to conquer an empty city.
Secret Report 3 said:Subject (X) was found in the central square shortly after dawn. Female, approximately fifteen years old. After seven days' observation, she spoke her first words, but could not provide a name. Subject exhibits signs of profound amnesia, and displays concern about which world this is. Her words suggest that she departed her home world with others, though she cannot recall the names of her erstwhile companions. All efforts to explore those memories have met with a rejection response
She does? I've forgotten Maleficent as much as the game does so didn't remember this.Maleficent says that the Book of Prophecies is inside the Box, while Luxord claims there's hope. Either they're both right, or not.
Sort of. Maleficent goes on to search for the Book of Prophecies after Re: coded (this is what she's doing in DDD), but then, by the time we get to KH3, she's suddenly looking for the Black Box again. So one could assume the Book itself is in the Box, but this is unlikely considering that the MoM told Luxu as he was giving him the the box, that he wouldn't be having any Book of Prophecies with him on his journey.She does? I've forgotten Maleficent as much as the game does so didn't remember this.
Sort of. Maleficent goes on to search for the Book of Prophecies after Re: coded (this is what she's doing in DDD), but then, by the time we get to KH3, she's suddenly looking for the Black Box again. So one could assume the Book itself is in the Box, but this is unlikely considering that the MoM told Luxu as he was giving him the the box, that he wouldn't be having any Book of Prophecies with him on his journey.
Wonder what she'll do now that she knows that Xigbar played her like a fiddle.Sort of. Maleficent goes on to search for the Book of Prophecies after Re: coded (this is what she's doing in DDD), but then, by the time we get to KH3, she's suddenly looking for the Black Box again. So one could assume the Book itself is in the Box, but this is unlikely considering that the MoM told Luxu as he was giving him the the box, that he wouldn't be having any Book of Prophecies with him on his journey.
If I had to guess, why the context of her goals changed so drastically, it's either a writing contrivance (so she'd have some goal connected to the events of KH3, and thus would be justified enough to be included), or Xigbar told her at some point. I say the latter because, according to Larxene, it was Xigbar that told the Seekers about the box, but he refused to hand it over to them, or even tell them anything about it (probably intending for them to go on a wild goose chase while he had it safely tucked away).
Ah, okay.Sort of. Maleficent goes on to search for the Book of Prophecies after Re: coded (this is what she's doing in DDD), but then, by the time we get to KH3, she's suddenly looking for the Black Box again. So one could assume the Book itself is in the Box, but this is unlikely considering that the MoM told Luxu as he was giving him the the box, that he wouldn't be having any Book of Prophecies with him on his journey.
Gotta bring this up, but just what was the point in Xigbar telling them this? The only reason I can come up with is he wants them to know about it, but...why?If I had to guess, why the context of her goals changed so drastically, it's either a writing contrivance (so she'd have some goal connected to the events of KH3, and thus would be justified enough to be included), or Xigbar told her at some point. I say the latter because, according to Larxene, it was Xigbar that told the Seekers about the box, but he refused to hand it over to them, or even tell them anything about it (probably intending for them to go on a wild goose chase while he had it safely tucked away).
No idea. It never once came into play during the game, or any of Xehanort's plans. It's all the more confusing when, again, Xigbar told them about the Box, but didn't just.... Give it to them. Like, he absolutely knew exactly where it was, considering he immediately plucked it from it's location in the epilogue of KH3 (probably after his Nobody was destroyed and reformed as a complete person), so if he didn't give them the location, it must've been a conscious choice, right?Ah, okay.
Gotta bring this up, but just what was the point in Xigbar telling them this? The only reason I can come up with is he wants them to know about it, but...why?
Although the New Seven Hearts weren't used in KH3's overall plot, they still introduced and developed them, unlike the Box, which I like to think that Nomura introduced that plotline for the sake of letting the audiences know about it. Like you said, it makes zero sense to send everyone on a wild goose chase if, in the end, someone already had the Box.it's even more pointless than the NPoH or Subject X.
There is one reason I could think of.Although the New Seven Hearts weren't used in KH3's overall plot, they still introduced and developed them, unlike the Box, which I like to think that Nomura introduced that plotline for the sake of letting the audiences know about it. Like you said, it makes zero sense to send everyone on a wild goose chase if, in the end, someone already had the Box.
Maleficent goes on to search for the Book of Prophecies after Re: coded
But why would he want anyone to think that the Box is a fluke? Who does he want manipulate? Who DOESN'T he want to know that the box ISN'T a fluke?There is one reason I could think of.
Xiggy wants to make sure that everyone believes that the box is a complete fluke. So what better way than to have them go on a fruitless search where the only boxes they find don't even match what he's vaguely talking about?
If that specific box can't be found anywhere, it must not exist at all. Pretty sure Larxene was already on the way to believing it doesn't exist in one of the cutscenes.