Kingdom Hearts III Pre-Release Spoiler Discussion Thread

[SuperSaiyanSora]

Thing is Im pretty sure that subplot was never meant to go anywhere. It was just there because Advent Children was coming out so they wanted to promote it in KH2.

Hot take: I honestly think there is no continuation of this sub-plot. They clashed swords, jumped into the air and disappeared into a bright light. Sora then says that they disappeared to another world and are having a great battle. I don't think they need to continue from there.

It'd be great if they did bring Cloud and Sephiroth back, but I'm not bothered by it. I'd rather some new FF superbosses like maybe Seymour or Ardyn. Step out of the box for a bit.

 

[Mizunashi]

I honestly think any FFXV cameo is about at 'in the box' as they could possibly be.

 

[rokudamia2]

It's difficult to see it as anything other than a sub-plot given that Sephiroth's KH1 Battle was canon and led directly into meeting him in KH2.

If it was never meant to be touched after KH2 I don't know why they'd bother adding Tifa and Zack to the little fanservice plot.

And I also don't like the notion that 'KH doesn't need FF cameos anymore' as if it wasn't literally half of what made the concept so cool and magical. They just added to the charm of the series, and to say 'This crutch for sales is no longer needed' feels like a big portion of what made the series so magical is now being pushed out.

Huh, if anything kh2 acts like the kh1 battle never happened.

 

[SuperSaiyanSora]

I honestly think any FFXV cameo is about at 'in the box' as they could possibly be.

Stepping out the box means doing something different, obviously. FFXV is a new game, so a cameo makes sense, because that hasn't been done yet. IF they're in there. Cloud and Sephiroth have been there for two games and I personally don't mind if they change it up a little. That's why I said it was a "hot take" -- It's not supposed to be what most people are going to go for, and that's fine!

 

[KeybladeLordSora]

If I'm being honest, I think if KH3 Cloud v. Seph happened, it would end with "jump bright light gone" like the other two.

 

[Sephiroth0812]

Huh, if anything kh2 acts like the kh1 battle never happened.

The battle between Cloud and Sephiroth depicted in KH 1 FM did happen, the one between Sora and Sephiroth in KH 1 however did not as Sephiroth doesn't recognize Sora nor vice-versa (and that can't be because of Sora's memory mess since his memory was restored and only the memories of CoM are buried).

 

[GrumpyRoxy]

Sora doesn't even know who Sephiroth is even when Clouds describes him. It's super awkward how KH2 simply ignores the "subplot" in KH1.
That is one of the main reasons why I belive this wouldn't be approached in KH3, really.

 

[Mizunashi]

I wouldn't recognise someone who took two seconds to knock me out, either tbf.

 

[GrumpyRoxy]

I wouldn't recognise someone who took two seconds to knock me out, either tbf.

Well... you got a point. And a very good one

 

[sorawild]

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When Rinoa gets teased and forgotten. R.I.P. I'm really disappointed if the characters it Noctis.

Considering how widely disliked FF8 actually is, I was surprised they put in Squall at all.

 

[Twilight Lumiair]

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Just listened to the audio for the Aqua fight. And..... Ugh, I am sooo dissapointed. I wanted to hold out until I was sure, but now I can say that the everything Aqua vowed in 0.2 officially amounts to nothing for me anymore in terms of the plot. It's still one of my favorite scenes in the series, but I am dissapointed it doesn't have any weight anymore.

 

[Xblade13]

Putting my two cents into the Sephiroth discussion, I think he's honestly overrated and overused in general. Call me a weirdo but VII isn't even my favorite Final Fantasy. I prefer VI and IX over that one, and I'd love it if Kefka were a secret bosses for once, or even Seymour, Ardyn, Snow, etc. I get tired of Cloud and Sephiroth. Of course they had VII, and Advent Children, and Crisis Core, and Kingdom Hearts, and the remake coming up, and the fact that Cloud is in Smash probably means if we get another FF in Smash it'd be Sephiroth. I'm just really tired of those two at this point, and personally

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I'm glad they aren't in 3 by the looks of it. I enjoyed Zack being the only Final Fantasy character in BBS (to adertise Crisis Core), and The World Ends With You being in DDD.

I will say I am a little disappointed we won't see Leon and the gang in KH3, but if any location is likely as a DLC world it is Radiant Garden. There is precedence for new worlds in FM content, as the Realm of Darkness in BBS was the size of if not bigger than the regular worlds in the game.

I think the goal with KH3 was to end the saga in the same way it began, with much more of a Disney focus and one single hub world. The number of worlds is almost identical too.

 

[Elysium]

First I'd heard that FFVIII is hated. The only one I've really heard extreme hate for is XIII.

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I don't care that Sephiroth isn't in KH3. I would rather fight another FF character if there was a secret boss--Ultimecia would've made sense considering all the time travel in KH now. My disappointment is more about the Radiant Garden crowd really, which Cloud is a part of.

 

[GrumpyRoxy]

First I'd heard that FFVIII is hated. The only one I've really heard extreme hate for is XIII.

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I don't care that Sephiroth isn't in KH3. I would rather fight another FF character if there was a secret boss--Ultimecia would've made sense considering all the time travel in KH now. My disappointment is more about the Radiant Garden crowd really, which Cloud is a part of.

I agree, it's kinda sad to know that the Comitee won't even make a tiny appearance.
There could be at least some sort of text message from Leon to Sora's Gummiphone saying "Yo Sora, we wish you good luck against that Bald asshole"

 

[furusatoe]

FFVIII had its detractors, but was in nowise hated. Less popular than FFVII, sure, but definitely has more fans than FFXII, FFXIII, or FFXV.

 

[UltimaXOmega]

FFVIII is better received than FFXV.

 

[Leaferian]

Leaker just showed Hunny Blasters/Hunny Launcher and Big Hero 6 gameplay. He seems to be around Level 70, is up to about 60 hours of gameplay, and doesn't appear to be 1-shotting things... not even regular old shadows!

 

[Fatal Mode]

Leaker just showed Hunny Blasters/Hunny Launcher and Big Hero 6 gameplay. He seems to be around Level 70, is up to about 60 hours of gameplay, and doesn't appear to be 1-shotting things... not even regular old shadows!

But there’s no content!!! /s

 

[Luminary]

I think Keyblade Graveyard might be more explorable than we expect it to be.

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In the secret boss arena, it looks like there may be two exits, one that leads into the canyon which we see on the map in the boss fight video. Then there seems to be another opening straight across the arena, which may lead out to more explorable areas. Also, he posted a picture in a cave/canyon and it appears you can travel either north or south from the save point. So I’m hoping there’s a decent bit more to explore in both directions as the position of the save point looks more like a mid-world location. I’d be fine with Keyblade Graveyard being our last fully explorable dungeon and the SaC being the final boss arena.

 

[Ranma]

First I'd heard that FFVIII is hated. The only one I've really heard extreme hate for is XIII.

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I don't care that Sephiroth isn't in KH3. I would rather fight another FF character if there was a secret boss--Ultimecia would've made sense considering all the time travel in KH now. My disappointment is more about the Radiant Garden crowd really, which Cloud is a part of.

Personally, I have my issues with games like XIII and especially XV... But VIII is easily my least favorite Final Fantasy. Didn't like a single thing about it. Not everyone shares my opinion but there's the second time you've heard it.

That being said, as someone that played KH before getting into FF, it just seems wrong to not include even the mainstay cameos