well, you ARE a religious conservative.
don't try pretending for a second that you're not
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well, you ARE a religious conservative.
don't try pretending for a second that you're not
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Well duh.
But what weight is heavier? Having an abortion and possibly having grief over that or having the baby and possibly having stress over raising it with major problems? Of course the mother will be changed either way. Only she knows what is better for the baby and herself.
k cool
it sounded like you were saying that we were just blindly assigning you a stereotype
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Find me a mother that isn't mentally insane that comes out of an abortion clinic with a smile on her face, or the delivery ward of a hospital with a frown on her face and a baby in her hands.
I see nothing wrong with abortion if used responsibly and not just some form of birth control. There are many cases that abortion is beneficial, and probably for the best
. There are countless kids either stuck in a dead end family with piss ant parents who do crap job at parenting and abuse the child. Then there is the adoption issue, kids living home to home with foster parents who can either be great or abusive and same for being adopted. Then the case of a rape victim who ends up hating and loathing their child because the kid reminds her of her rape and the man that did that too her.
And it is her body to do what she wants with it, and no one should tell her other wise, especially the government.
. There are countless kids either stuck in a dead end family with piss ant parents who do crap job at parenting and abuse the child. Then there is the adoption issue, kids living home to home with foster parents who can either be great or abusive and same for being adopted. Then the case of a rape victim who ends up hating and loathing their child because the kid reminds her of her rape and the man that did that too her.
And it is her body to do what she wants with it, and no one should tell her other wise, especially the government.
Adoption isn't always the damn answer. There is still the stress over having the baby. I really doubt going through labor to have a baby for the purpose of giving up is awesome.
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I think everyone's forgetting that she chose to have unprotected sex in the first place. She's an adult, she should have known a baby is a possibility.
If they were so damn worried about a baby they would have wrapped their tools, or taken the pill, or done a vasectomy.
If they were so damn worried about a baby they would have wrapped their tools, or taken the pill, or done a vasectomy.
all sinful methods since baby production would be avoided.
Yep.
No thank you.
Birth defects...
Of course, it's a greatly flawed system.
I personally hate the taste of alchohol.
Riiight.
Insane much?
And how does that make any sense?
Who do you think I am? George Bush?
Right...
Probably.
Nto whatever, just more than you.
That, mister Dogen, is a lie.
No. It's my fault my life is shit, not the man who destroyed the world economy.
Way to assume Dogen.
You assume that condoms and pills are 100%. They aren't. There are cases when it just fails. You can be as careful as you want but there is still a chance. You make it sound like having the baby is her punishment, which is very disgusting to imply.
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Lifeline: Who the hell said I'm talking to you? I'm talking to the people who do do those things, then I'm not talking to you, am I?
My sister then again got pregnant on the pill, but they chose to keep the baby even though it was a surprise and it's the greatest thing that's ever happened to my family.
So frankly, I'll never understand the logic (or rather, cop-out) that is abortion.
More like consequence for her actions, which people hardly seem to accept anymore.
Of course but that chance is very minimal.
My sister then again got pregnant on the pill, but they chose to keep the baby even though it was a surprise and it's the greatest thing that's ever happened to my family.
So frankly, I'll never understand the logic (or rather, cop-out) that is abortion.
More like consequence for her actions, which people hardly seem to accept anymore.
So you want her to have the baby to show her something? No. She is an adult. She has her rights. Everyone does. You cannot take away her right to an abortion. If she wants it, who are you to stop her?
I was just pointing out that that's not the way things work now.
Concerning the issue here, I say let her do what she wants Herman, it's not your place to decide.
Well I'm neither of those people, I'm just an average kid who likes average things. Their is no point in being concerned with how people treat themselves and others. The way people live will not be changed by speeches or laws, people do whatever they want. I look out for my family, friends, and myself. Sorry if the issue got a little heated.
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dont kill babbys you fucks ;_;
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How exactly is putting a baby you don't want up for adoption accepting the consequences? If anything you're only making it someone else's problem.
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The adoption system is incredibly inefficient and notorious for inflicting psychological damage on the children involved. Most of these kids spend their entire lives drifting in and out of foster homes every few months, often being severely neglected in favor of any biological children the parents may have, if not abused altogether. Whatever your stance on abortion is (personally I am pro-choice) I would have to seriously question the morality of any person who would subject any human being to that sort of life.
Is abortion a cruel procedure? Only if euthanasia is also a cruel procedure. In this very specific context, I don't define life by any sort of biological factors -- if you have no interpersonal relationships, no thoughts, no ability to affect your environment, then you are not alive in any real sense of the word. That seems to describe a fetus quite well, doesn't it? With that in mind, I think killing a chimpanzee is more reprehensible than having an abortion.
But now I'll get back to the actual subject of the thread. The fact is, it's a little more nuance than "bigger family is always better". Nobody in this thread, myself included, knows anything about your family's structure, socioeconomic situation, history, belief system, or anything else that might be used to persuade them one way or another. What I can assume is that your mother has her reasons for seeking an abortion and that you probably ought to respect them.
EDIT: Just noticed that your dad is the one pressing for an abortion and not necessarily your mom, but I don't think my post makes any less sense.
Is abortion a cruel procedure? Only if euthanasia is also a cruel procedure. In this very specific context, I don't define life by any sort of biological factors -- if you have no interpersonal relationships, no thoughts, no ability to affect your environment, then you are not alive in any real sense of the word. That seems to describe a fetus quite well, doesn't it? With that in mind, I think killing a chimpanzee is more reprehensible than having an abortion.
But now I'll get back to the actual subject of the thread. The fact is, it's a little more nuance than "bigger family is always better". Nobody in this thread, myself included, knows anything about your family's structure, socioeconomic situation, history, belief system, or anything else that might be used to persuade them one way or another. What I can assume is that your mother has her reasons for seeking an abortion and that you probably ought to respect them.
EDIT: Just noticed that your dad is the one pressing for an abortion and not necessarily your mom, but I don't think my post makes any less sense.
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